953 hydraulic lift oil

[jeremi3210 717]

Whats a good oil to run in the hydraulic lift units on these tractors? 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,033]

Dry capacity from the Lubrication Chart

[Pullstart 62,805]

I have a bucket of tractor/trans fluid from the farm store.  It was far less cost than a bucket of ATF and seems to have performed the same for many years in my commercial plow trucks.  I’d add some atf just for color, so I’d have a visual indicator in the snow if a leak occurred.  Scratch that.  Not IF, but WHEN!

[WHX?? 48,796]

I been running Lucas Oil 10017 as that's what Lowell @wheelhorseman recommended. Said it's got additives he liked. 

This is on my plow mule but came off a 953. 

I got a whole case dirt cheap off fleabay once. Gave Dan @Achto a jug of it so maybe he runs it too? 

Lucas Oil 10017 Lucas Universal Hydraulic Fluid | Summit Racing

[wheelhorseman 3,211]

I’ve talked to a few cub cadet guys recently and they claim the IH manual says SAE 30 I know a lot of guys still run ATF Nobody seems to know what Wheel Horse hydraulic fluid actually was since it is only referred to as the part number but the Cub guys claim the international manual calls out SAE 30🤷‍♂️

Edited December 15, 2020 by wheelhorseman

[JoeM 7,871]

1 hour ago, pullstart said:

tractor/trans fluid

I have been using the premium tractor trans in a few hydro machines and I must say, and I would not have believe it till I seen it, they are more quiet and smooth. I think the oil additives have came along way since the 70's spec for oils when motor oil was the best choice. A lot of anti wear compounds now and additives that resist the shearing effect on the oils. It is a 10w-30 viscosity. It would be fine in a gear drive. 

[Achto 27,510]

2 hours ago, WHX24 said:

Gave Dan @Achto a jug of it so maybe he runs it too? 

Lucas Oil 10017 Lucas Universal Hydraulic Fluid | Summit Racing

 

Yep I'm running the Lucas juice in my HY pump.

 

@wheelhorseman I like the 30wt idea. My pump does seem to get a little slow when it is warm. I wonder if the heavier oil would help this issue.

[Lane Ranger 10,946]

I have used both Lucas and 30 wt oil in different tractors but I wonder if the Hein-Werner  hydraulic Jack oil might be a good alternative?

http://www.shinnfuamerica.com/ProductDetails/Hein-WernerAutomotive/1QuartPremiumJackOil/HW93291/536

 

Here is Lucas hydraulic fluid tech sheet:

https://lucasoil.com/pdf/TDS_Universal-Hydraulic-Fluid.pdf

 

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by Lane Ranger

[jeremi3210 717]

This is for my kids 953, I put tractor trans oil in mine 5 or so years ago when I put it together. Been working great other than the constant drip! I did get 2 seal kits from wheel horse parts and more so hopefully I can seal them up. Didnt know if that was the right fluid, just curious what everyone else was running. Thanks!

[953 nut 55,101]

5 hours ago, pullstart said:

color, so I’d have a visual indicator in the snow if a leak occurred.  Scratch that.  Not IF, but WHEN!

I have one 953 with ATF and a couple that have ???? oil in them based on the color of their drips. The two that have clear oil I top off with hydraulic oil and they all work fine.

[Lane Ranger 10,946]

6 hours ago, Achto said:

 

Yep I'm running the Lucas juice in my HY pump.

 

@wheelhorseman I like the 30wt idea. My pump does seem to get a little slow when it is warm. I wonder if the heavier oil would help this issue.

 

Dan What weight or density do you think Lucas hydraulic fluid is?  I think it lighter than 30 wt .   Several big tractor dozer blogs talk about the benefits of additives. 

[Achto 27,510]

18 minutes ago, Lane Ranger said:

Dan What weight or density do you think Lucas hydraulic fluid is?  

 

If I had to guess, I would say maybe around 20wt. But I am not sure. I do know that it is lighter than 30wt.