Mike'sHorseBarn 2,999 #1 Posted December 15, 2020 Anyone have any info on this machine, like when they were made? I'm assuming parts are going to be hard to find, but I think this was built by Moto-Mower. I keep picking up these off brands lol 8 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #2 Posted December 15, 2020 Nice machine, that design was produced by several different manufacturers after Porter cable sold off its lawn garden division in late 1959 A good guess is 60 to 63. I would try to put a date on the kohler. Yours looks complete and has the belt guard on the muffler side which is a hard to find part 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,785 #3 Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Yep, built by Moto Mower. Similar to Massey Ferguson Executive and Porter Cable GT's. The hood on each of these is different. Here's some moto-Mower info I've collected. it should be very close to identical for a LawnMaster @new2horses has several. I've seen some comments/speculation that the foot rest (which are also the brake and clutch pedals) are left over WWII aircraft foot pedals I have a transmission on one to overhaul, and boy do they make WH tranny's look simple. Moto-Mower_Sales_flyer_1964_mower_line.pdf Edited December 15, 2020 by oliver2-44 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,999 #4 Posted December 15, 2020 Well thanks to those pics I know where the battery is supposed to go now. Previous owner built that bracket on the back for it. Get this, he lived to be 100. Got this tonight from his estate yard sale. Sat in the corner of his garage for 20 years when he couldn't plow his snow on his own anymore. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #5 Posted December 15, 2020 Not sure if you saw it there was a great buy on a Porter cable with alot of original attachments for 350 bucks kinda between me and you in pa. I think it finally sold. They are fun little machines my 2 have pull start briggs, yours with kohler definitely a nicer option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,999 #6 Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, jabelman said: Not sure if you saw it there was a great buy on a Porter cable with alot of original attachments for 350 bucks kinda between me and you in pa. I think it finally sold. They are fun little machines my 2 have pull start briggs, yours with kohler definitely a nicer option I missed that. I've never had a machine like this so it will be a learning experience. Definitely love anything with a kohler engine though! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #7 Posted December 15, 2020 Pretty basic machines, yours looks likes original survivor, not sure about the light. Looks cool enough, the rear battery definitely helped with weight. You will notice driving they have very light steering, you can steer it all day with 1 finger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,999 #8 Posted December 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, jabelman said: Pretty basic machines, yours looks likes original survivor, not sure about the light. Looks cool enough, the rear battery definitely helped with weight. You will notice driving they have very light steering, you can steer it all day with 1 finger I doubt the light is original, but I'll leave it there anyway. I'm just going to clean it up good, get it running and leave it alone. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,023 #9 Posted December 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said: I doubt the light is original, but I'll leave it there anyway. I'm just going to clean it up good, get it running and leave it alone. Totally agree. That's definitely a cool little machine and appears to be in very good condition. The front of the hood pic reminds me of those 50s robots in the movies 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,847 #10 Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, oliver2-44 said: some comments/speculation that the foot rest (which are also the brake and clutch pedals) are left over WWII aircraft foot pedals How cool is that?!?!? Edited December 15, 2020 by WHX24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #11 Posted December 15, 2020 13 hours ago, oliver2-44 said: Yep, built by Moto Mower. Similar to Massey Ferguson Executive and Porter Cable GT's. The hood on each of these is different. @new2horses I've seen some comments/speculation that the foot rest (which are also the brake and clutch pedals) are left over WWII aircraft foot pedals I highly doubt they are left over ww2 aircraft pedals, they would been cast aluminum not cast iron. The style or maybe a modified mould, alot of 1950s marketing and design was to ww2 group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,999 #12 Posted December 15, 2020 Axle seals are leaking pretty good on this thing. Wonder if anyone has ever replaced them and knows a part # Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tractornut86 620 #13 Posted December 15, 2020 The Lawn Master was a Dura-Corp built tractor not Moto Mower. Dura Corp built the tractors for Moto Mower, Porter Cable, Massey Ferguson, Lawn Master and I believe there were 2 other tractors also. It is odd that yours is built just same as the Porter cables. The other Lawn Masters I've seen had a pipe front axle instead of the cast axle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #14 Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said: Axle seals are leaking pretty good on this thing. Wonder if anyone has ever replaced them and knows a part # That's common on every single one, it's a napa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,769 #15 Posted December 15, 2020 My wife's Uncle gave me a Lawn Master Snow Blower way back in the late 70's. It was probably for 50's or early 60's. It was also made in Indiana. It was a walk behind, but it had drive wheels. The hubs were geared and fit on the axles. That thing would run great in the summer or fall when you were getting ready for winter, but it would not start when it was cold. I pulled that cord until I was blue in the face. I finally put it on the tree bank and somebody else picked it up. If I remember, it was the same white as above and the blower was a turquoise green. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,885 #16 Posted December 18, 2020 Wow, that's pretty cool! It looks really complete to me, I don't think you will need to find many parts. I bet that paint will really clean up well with some elbow grease. Have you ever used a clay bar? Might give it a try, can't wait to see it cleaned up!! Randy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,999 #17 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 11:59 AM, RandyLittrell said: Wow, that's pretty cool! It looks really complete to me, I don't think you will need to find many parts. I bet that paint will really clean up well with some elbow grease. Have you ever used a clay bar? Might give it a try, can't wait to see it cleaned up!! Randy Never used a clay bar before, but I have heard of them. Any tips? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,885 #18 Posted December 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said: Never used a clay bar before, but I have heard of them. Any tips? I would suggest a course one and you wet the paint with a little soapy water. Keep the paint wet ss you rub the paint, keep turning the bar and also squish it and turn the dirty surface inward. DO NOT DROP on the floor while using, it will pick up dirt and then can scratch the paint. Probably wouldn't be a big issue on an old tractor, but ruins the bar for working on a new car. They will take oxidized paint and surface rust off. Randy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #19 Posted December 21, 2020 When I worked at the auto body shop, we would wash the car, then use the clay with spray wax, we did about 50 cars once because a contractor painter somewhere sprayed a 6' cyclone fence silver and over sprayed an employee parking lot. Worked great to remove the over spray, took alot of time though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,318 #20 Posted December 21, 2020 The paint on my car no longer felt smooth, so I took a clay bar to it and it became good as new.. The bar took on a reddish color, any of you guys have an idea where that may have come from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bds1984 1,435 #21 Posted December 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, lynnmor said: The paint on my car no longer felt smooth, so I took a clay bar to it and it became good as new.. The bar took on a reddish color, any of you guys have an idea where that may have come from? Debris stuck in your car's paint? Even on my silver Focus, the clay bar took on a red tint. I just figured it was from all the touch up painting of Wheel Horses that caused that even though I was twenty feet away. Clay bars are awesome, but take a bit of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,885 #22 Posted December 22, 2020 22 hours ago, jabelman said: When I worked at the auto body shop, we would wash the car, then use the clay with spray wax, we did about 50 cars once because a contractor painter somewhere sprayed a 6' cyclone fence silver and over sprayed an employee parking lot. Worked great to remove the over spray, took alot of time though Worked at a Chevy dealer body shop before I went on disability and we used to use clay bars to get rid of railway brake dust on cars. The hot metal would stick to the paint and it would have little rust spots all over. Took it right off. Randy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schiff 0 #23 Posted July 7 I just got a lawnmaster ,,,I just unfroze the clutch pedal, was wondering if the footrest pedal was operational Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,785 #24 Posted July 9 @schiff you might want to start a new thread as this one is 4+ years old. Some pictures of your h tractor would help us answer your your question. Does the footrest pedal you are asking about have a rod that goes to the brake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites