Hydro vs Electric Lift

[ebinmaine 67,310]

12 minutes ago, DennisThornton said:

I highly recommend the WH dozer blade with a manual lift and down pressure link instead of chain.

Now, I can feel or sense what my New Holland is doing with it's hydraulics by listening to the load on the engine and I can feel little changes AFTER they have occurred but with the manual lift, and slowing down a bit, it's as though I'm one with the blade!  And I guess I pretty much am!

 

There is a mid-mount grader blade in our arsenal.

 

I bought one a couple years ago thinking that it would be nice to have on the Cinnamon Horse. 

We put it together and I made a grave error in telling Trina to install it on her tractor and go drive it around the yard and try it out. 

 

Well, I never got it back....

 

Could I use it if I really wanted to? Oh yeah ... of course. But she just has so much damn fun running that thing around the yard scraping gravel and throwing it everywhere. 

[McGrew 460]

Okay, it appears I am in the minority here with respect to electric lifts. I have one on my 71 Raider that my Dad bought new.  It does not say Wheelhorse anywhere, but Dad had the local WH dealer install it. Mine moves so fast it is impossible to repeat the depth of a plow or grader blade. On all the adjustment points I moved the linkage to the hole closest to the pivot point to slow it down, but it’s still too fast. Are the lifts from the early 70’s different than the later ones?   If I can’t slow it down I may go back to the manual lift. Thanks!  Danny 

[richmondred01 2,237]

Electric lifts from the 70’s are different. 

[Charbs152 254]

The hydro will be better for plowing....  much quicker directional changes with less levers and movement

[Scotsman 46]

Its not even close

ive had 416-A and other full hydros

and it’s not even close

its 1 Mississippi 

vs 3 Mississippi 

To the point where I took apart a running 518-H with the electric pto

and installed an Eaton 1100

i am hooking up the trans lines now

its freezing but Boston is getting 15 inches

and I better get back to it

 

P.S.

anyone got an Eaton 1100 manual with pics

i cant seem to locate it

Scotsman🦉

 

[Handy Don 12,163]

1 hour ago, Scotsman said:

P.S.

anyone got an Eaton 1100 manual with pics

i cant seem to locate it

This is what I have (I renamed the files for my own convenience--these are not the names they had when I found them).

Pump and Motor Only:

Eaton 1100 Hydro pump:motor.pdf

 

Pump/Motor/Transaxle:
Eaton 1100 with transaxle.pdf

 

[midpack 862]

2 hours ago, Scotsman said:

Its not even close

ive had 416-A and other full hydros

and it’s not even close

its 1 Mississippi 

vs 3 Mississippi 

To the point where I took apart a running 518-H with the electric pto

and installed an Eaton 1100

i am hooking up the trans lines now

its freezing but Boston is getting 15 inches

and I better get back to it

 

P.S.

anyone got an Eaton 1100 manual with pics

i cant seem to locate it

Scotsman🦉

 

you mean an electric lift?

 

if you want to get rid of it...    

[wallfish 16,986]

On 12/7/2020 at 7:02 PM, McGrew said:

Okay, it appears I am in the minority here with respect to electric lifts. I have one on my 71 Raider that my Dad bought new.  It does not say Wheelhorse anywhere, but Dad had the local WH dealer install it. Mine moves so fast it is impossible to repeat the depth of a plow or grader blade. On all the adjustment points I moved the linkage to the hole closest to the pivot point to slow it down, but it’s still too fast. Are the lifts from the early 70’s different than the later ones?   If I can’t slow it down I may go back to the manual lift. Thanks!  Danny 

Maybe move that speedy one to the blade angle and a new slower one for the lift ?

A DC motor will run slower with less voltage to it so maybe some electrical magic parts could slow it down for you and give better control

[Scotsman 46]

I gave one away to a guy who didn’t even really want it

He bought a workhorse gt 1100 that I couldn’t bare to part out because it was rust free minus the engine

but I would sell the pto

I’ll let you know when I take it off

Scotsman 🦉

 

[JCM 9,130]

Set up the 417-8 today with factory electric lift to operate the 48'' dozer blade and it really isn't all that bad. Will know more after this storm that's on it's way.

[ebinmaine 67,310]

8 hours ago, JCM said:

Set up the 417-8 today with factory electric lift to operate the 48'' dozer blade and it really isn't all that bad. Will know more after this storm that's on it's way.

Need some video of that twin at work. 

[JCM 9,130]

Well now that was a good old fashioned dumping of snow to try out the Electric Lift. Worked well and a step up from the manual lift lever. Next best thing to a Hydro. The high piles were made with the loader tractor and clean up with the 417.

[richmondred01 2,237]

Yep they sure make it easier then lifting the blade by hand.

 

[pfrederi 17,674]

If you cant deal with a manual lift do not waste your time and money on an electric.  Get a hydro tractor.  in the end it will be worth it. (probably cheaper.) besides the speed and reversese advantages of a hydro.