ebinmaine 67,309 #26 Posted December 3, 2020 @Crmaverick I've been in the trucking and transportation industry along with running forklifts and cranes for quite a while now. The A#1 consideration in this industry is safety. ABOVE ALL ELSE. I learned to say in quite a long time ago and I've repeated it more times than I can count: "if you have to think about it at all, you've already thought about it too long. You shouldn't do it." How you use your tractor and what you do for a hitch is obviously your own discretion and we can just give you the best advice possible. The fact that you're putting consideration into buying a hitch that is more stable instead of stabilizing the load and the trailer is fundamentally incorrect. I'm not trying to preach. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. The fact of the matter is that what you are doing is, in the laws of physics and gravity, incorrect. You should NEVER EVER have the trailer tongue lift UP. Movable hitch or not ..... If you stay with the hitch that you have and use it as gravity intended it will be perfectly fine. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,795 #27 Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) I've got the same setup as Bronc on a tractor and it works great. I used a rubber bumper on the tab the rests under the tranny for noise and movement. Edited December 3, 2020 by WHX24 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #28 Posted December 3, 2020 Big amen to that @ebinmaine As stated, gravity and physics don't care what tractor you have, or what hitch. If used improperly, it has the potential to not end well. I just use my Commando 8 to pull one of those 4-wheeled small plastic carts. Don't have a need for big trailers (small yard, don't use firewood). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crmaverick 91 #29 Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: @Crmaverick I've been in the trucking and transportation industry along with running forklifts and cranes for quite a while now. The A#1 consideration in this industry is safety. ABOVE ALL ELSE. I learned to say in quite a long time ago and I've repeated it more times than I can count: "if you have to think about it at all, you've already thought about it too long. You shouldn't do it." How you use your tractor and what you do for a hitch is obviously your own discretion and we can just give you the best advice possible. The fact that you're putting consideration into buying a hitch that is more stable instead of stabilizing the load and the trailer is fundamentally incorrect. I'm not trying to preach. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. The fact of the matter is that what you are doing is, in the laws of physics and gravity, incorrect. You should NEVER EVER have the trailer tongue lift UP. Movable hitch or not ..... If you stay with the hitch that you have and use it as gravity intended it will be perfectly fine. I hear you on that safety I’m just trying to not put pressure on that cable with a trailer cart loaded and bouncing around the yard. The C series draw hitch seems to be the right way to tow a load, without your cable taking the load of the tounge weight. Then your other receiver hitch can still pivot independently on that cable inside the draw hitch 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,509 #30 Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Crmaverick said: I hear you on that safety I’m just trying to not put pressure on that cable with a trailer cart loaded and bouncing around the yard. The C series draw hitch seems to be the right way to tow a load, without your cable taking the load of the tounge weight. Then your other receiver hitch can still pivot independently on that cable inside the draw hitch Like @WHX24 stated above, I add a rubber bumper to my drawbar hitch where it makes contact with the transmission to get rid of the up & down movement.. I drill & tap a hole on the hitch to add a bumper like the one listed below. https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/fasteners/vibration-isolators/isolators-machine-leveling/vibration-shock-absorption-mount-threaded-stud-100-inch-dia-50-inch-h-1-4-20-thread?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiramqZ6y7QIV0z2tBh2ScAhWEAQYByABEgJz1PD_BwE Most of the time the rubber is too thick. To remedy this I chuck the threaded end in a drill. Then I oil up a razor blade for easier cutting. Spin the bumper with the drill & slice through the rubber to get it down to the size that you need. I use this method to trim bumpers quite often & it works very well. Edited December 3, 2020 by Achto 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,045 #31 Posted December 3, 2020 As others have said, that cable will take it. I used to use my 76 to move a 30' travel trailer in and out of the pole barn. I had to hook the snowblower on it to keep the front down. Of course it was very level ground and I kept the tongue jack close to the ground just in case. Never hurt the cable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #32 Posted December 3, 2020 Depending on what that cable is made out of and exactly how many strands, etc... It will have a Working Load Limit of somewhere between 240 and 400 lb. I don't know what the exact tow rating is of those older Horses but I think you're supposed to be around 200-300 lb of tow weight .. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,795 #33 Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Racinbob said: that cable will take it. Tell that to these canaries.... course look what they were trying to get unstuck with probably a 50 YO cable. Just tie her to the plow Mike! After that fiasco it was a speed run to the hardware store for cable and clamps as no one had a spare Wheel Horse Parts and More cable. The hardware store stuff was no substitute for Lowell's guaranteed ones. This was at plow day 2017...subsequent years there is always one of his cables and the tools needed to change it out in the service tub. We sure did have fun jury rigging tho didn't we Tom! @Shynon Edited December 4, 2020 by WHX24 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnD 145 #34 Posted December 6, 2020 It looks like the hitch from Wheel Horse Parts & More is easily removable and works with the plow mounting bracket. Check out the photos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toro-Wheel-Horse-Removable-Receiver-Hitch-with-mounting-hardware/324370405786?hash=item4b85fb999a:g:uCoAAOSwFBhazQaV 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #35 Posted December 6, 2020 7 hours ago, JohnD said: It looks like the hitch from Wheel Horse Parts & More is easily removable and works with the plow mounting bracket. Check out the photos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toro-Wheel-Horse-Removable-Receiver-Hitch-with-mounting-hardware/324370405786?hash=item4b85fb999a:g:uCoAAOSwFBhazQaV Correct. Lowell and Joette are wonderful people and one of our own vendors. If you buy direct from them through this site or theirs the fleabay doesn't get a cut.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,795 #36 Posted December 6, 2020 You have ?? about his products call him direct. His phone number is listed on his site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,045 #37 Posted December 6, 2020 14 hours ago, JohnD said: It looks like the hitch from Wheel Horse Parts & More is easily removable and works with the plow mounting bracket. Check out the photos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Toro-Wheel-Horse-Removable-Receiver-Hitch-with-mounting-hardware/324370405786?hash=item4b85fb999a:g:uCoAAOSwFBhazQaV Like Eric said, yes it does. This is mounted on my 2005. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R Scheer 502 #38 Posted December 6, 2020 You can try towing with the slot hitch, (keeping in mind all the safety precautions mentioned earlier), the cable will take it, but the connection to the rock shaft is the weak point from my experience. I pulled the ball on the end of the cable right through the clevis. Of course this was trying to pull a 19' outboard boat that had been parked on the lawn all winter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites