cschannuth 3,816 #51 Posted November 25, 2020 7 hours ago, pullstart said: @cschannuth I’m not a Ford guy, but nice Ranger! Is it in another thread on here? I’m not sure but here are a couple more pictures of it. It’s an 83 base model but it has working air conditioning and the biggest V6 they made back then. I had the Mgnum 500’s so I threw on there just for giggles. I think it looks pretty cool with them on there. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,207 #52 Posted November 25, 2020 Honda XR-650 R @cschannuth 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,207 #53 Posted November 25, 2020 A few more of my favorites. 93 520 89 312 86 417 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,023 #54 Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 2:12 PM, cschannuth said: I’m not sure but here are a couple more pictures of it. It’s an 83 base model but it has working air conditioning and the biggest V6 they made back then. I had the Mgnum 500’s so I threw on there just for giggles. I think it looks pretty cool with them on there. The company I retired from made those Mag 500's. They had been in production for a number of years when I started there in '78. I did do the stress analysis on the optional white wheels that were offered on Rangers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,023 #55 Posted November 26, 2020 Nothin special, just a working horse. 1973 14hp 8 speed. 4 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,711 #56 Posted November 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, 8ntruck said: Extra special, a working horse 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cschannuth 3,816 #57 Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 8ntruck said: The company I retired from made those Mag 500's. They had been in production for a number of years when I started there in '78. I did do the stress analysis on the optional white wheels that were offered on Rangers. These were reproductions. They are 15x8’s. Most of the originals were, I believe, 14x7’s. . Edited November 26, 2020 by cschannuth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,023 #58 Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, cschannuth said: These were reproductions. They are 15x8’s. Most of the originals were, I believe, 14x7’s. . Agree. Most of them were 14x7's. We also made 14x8's, 15x7's, and 15x8's. The 8's went on factory hot rods like the Buick GS, Mustang Machs, and Chevy SS. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,923 #59 Posted November 27, 2020 3 hours ago, 8ntruck said: Nothin special, just a working horse. 1973 14hp 8 speed. Well cared for, extra special indeed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #60 Posted November 27, 2020 Just a few over the years... 4 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,023 #61 Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) @WV Hillbilly - you got hitch pictures on that titled rear grader blade? Looks interesting. Edited November 27, 2020 by 8ntruck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,923 #62 Posted November 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, 8ntruck said: @WV Hillbilly - you got hitch pictures on that titled rear grader blade? Looks I treating. @WVHillbilly520H 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,251 #64 Posted November 27, 2020 36 minutes ago, 8ntruck said: @WV Hillbilly - you got hitch pictures on that titled rear grader blade? Looks interesting. Like @8ntruck and @pullstart, very curious about the tilted rear blade -- hitch, controls, source, etc. Thanks! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #65 Posted November 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Handy Don said: Like @8ntruck and @pullstart, very curious about the tilted rear blade -- hitch, controls, source, etc. Thanks! My father originally designed and built it in the mid to late 1980s at the factory he worked in and used for 20 plus years grading/ditching/repairing our 1/4 long dirt/gravel driveway with it hitched to a 1200 Cub Cadet unfortunately he ran it over about 7 years ago and left set until I decided to rehab it, when he initially built it he designed the ditching/tilt mechanism into the "clevis" portion of the hitch its basically 6 holes drilled (on 5-10°) off center then bolted on level or tilted basically like the left to right angle block (see pics) I just took his original design and strengthened it, I dont have any detailed drawings or measurements (maybe I will dig it out for better pics) but here are the pictures from where I started from to finished product. If I were to redo it again I would build it like my Dirt Dog 3pt unit for my compact 4x4. 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,207 #66 Posted November 27, 2020 Finding some more from old photo albums. The 1986 312-8 with cart was kept up at camp for various duties. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,251 #67 Posted November 27, 2020 18 hours ago, WVHillbilly520H said: My father originally designed and built it in the mid to late 1980s ... Ah, I can see here how the parallel horizontal bars (one broken off) tried to maintain the tilt on the blade against the tongue that the extra holes at the sleeve hitch "dialed in". I am looking at this carefully, since I will be grading woodland lanes that should have a crown to shed rain. None of the mid- or rear-mounted blades I've seen on WHs, including the Brinly Box Scraper, seem to consider the importance of crown or ditch maintenance. Big road graders pull this off by combining a tilting blade and variable tilt of the front wheels so the fronts can track higher than the behind-the-blade rears. Those things also can apply (serious!) downforce on the blade. I'm not sure if applying the torsion at the hitch will be enough for what I'm trying to do--may need to be able to shift a weight box from side to side and maybe even add independent depth-controlling trailing gage wheels to the back of the scraper Your father came up with a way that worked on his big tractor--good for him! Thanks for the extra pictures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #68 Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Handy Don said: I will get you more and better details later. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #69 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) @Handy Don... I will try to clarify some of my pictures and add some more... From my post #65 above 1) pic #2 and #1 you close upped , dad used the flat (small c channel iron) to hold the flat 3/8" thick "drawbar" in center/left/right angle positions the 2 round pieces either side were old cast iron plowed shanks that he also got his moldboards radios from to roll on their big break machine, the 2 half inch diameter round bars to each corner was an after thought to help keep the moldboard from sprinting back while ditching, now pics below should help with how he achieved the tilting by drilling 6 holes on a 5 or 10° off center depending on difficulty of ditching up hill or down or which side he most comfortable looking over his shoulder while in operation, basically like the angle plates on Brinly style blades that I adopted when I refurbished it for my use... Also I drew up a little blue print if you so choose to go forth with your own , Good Luck and happy fabricating, Jeff. PM me if need any further clarification... BTW it has stood up to many years of hard use/abuse in a very rocky and hard packed sandstone environment.... Also a couple of actual in use pics. Edited November 28, 2020 by WVHillbilly520H 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,251 #70 Posted November 29, 2020 Ok @WV Hillbilly, you are gonna get me into a HEAP of trouble. This is such a simple and elegant design, especially the tube-in-tube enhancement, that it makes me want to do it myself! Up until now I was a quiet handy person who basically wrenched and wired and plumbed and carpentered--any fabrication beyond brackets and things I could cut, drill and bolt I took to a nearby shop. Now I'm thinking "I need to learn how to weld and get a welder" (which will probably mean needing to upgrade the power in my garage too, sheesh!) So now will be keeping an eye out for a Brinley or other blade/box scraper in Eastern NY and Western CT to which I can apply your upgrade. At that point, I'll start a thread for "tilting rear blade" and add some of your posts to it, if that's ok with you. I plan on blaming you for this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #71 Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Handy Don said: Ok @WV Hillbilly, you are gonna get me into a HEAP of trouble. This is such a simple and elegant design, especially the tube-in-tube enhancement, that it makes me want to do it myself! Up until now I was a quiet handy person who basically wrenched and wired and plumbed and carpentered--any fabrication beyond brackets and things I could cut, drill and bolt I took to a nearby shop. Now I'm thinking "I need to learn how to weld and get a welder" (which will probably mean needing to upgrade the power in my garage too, sheesh!) So now will be keeping an eye out for a Brinley or other blade/box scraper in Eastern NY and Western CT to which I can apply your upgrade. At that point, I'll start a thread for "tilting rear blade" and add some of your posts to it, if that's ok with you. I plan on blaming you for this. 100% ok with it... I am a machinist by trade (but currently not in the trade) and did most of my projects at my old place of employment as I only have minimal tools here at my disposal but I do have friends than can help with what I can't... And yes I'll take the blame BTW I just came up with the heavy wall DOM tubing idea today as I was drawing up the original plans to show you what my dad had designed... Now I may have to modify my own blade . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,251 #72 Posted November 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, WVHillbilly520H said: I just came up with the heavy wall DOM tubing idea today as I was drawing up the original plans to show you what my dad had designed... Now I may have to modify my own blade Give it at least two thoughts. That stuff is pricey--I just got off a couple of websites looked at 3.5" OD and 4" OD x 3.5" ID to nest. I thought it'd be neat to permanently make the "shell" with its holes welded to a Clevis Hitch plate and then have the different implements "plug in" to the shell like a tongue with matching holes for the different rotation angles. No tools changes, just a pin and hairpin clip. Guess you'd only need 10" for the hitch and 9" for each implement, assuming you had the rest of the arms, backing plates, etc. My son, who also thinks your idea is very cool, suggested it'd even handle a single-tooth ripper (we're gonna be dealing with some sapling roots). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,251 #73 Posted November 29, 2020 If you go down this path, start a new thread, ok? By the way, maybe we should be discussing a commission. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,023 #74 Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Handy Don said: Ok @WV Hillbilly, you are gonna get me into a HEAP of trouble. This is such a simple and elegant design, especially the tube-in-tube enhancement, that it makes me want to do it myself! Up until now I was a quiet handy person who basically wrenched and wired and plumbed and carpentered--any fabrication beyond brackets and things I could cut, drill and bolt I took to a nearby shop. Now I'm thinking "I need to learn how to weld and get a welder" (which will probably mean needing to upgrade the power in my garage too, sheesh!) So now will be keeping an eye out for a Brinley or other blade/box scraper in Eastern NY and Western CT to which I can apply your upgrade. At that point, I'll start a thread for "tilting rear blade" and add some of your posts to it, if that's ok with you. I plan on blaming you for this. I only have 110 in my garage, so I've built a heavy duty extension cord that plugs into the dryer outlet in the basement. Only thing is, the dryer is on the other end of the house. The cord goes from thecdryer outlet, out a basement window, through the back yard to the garage. This system kind of makes welding inconvenient. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,075 #75 Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, 8ntruck said: I only have 110 in my garage, so I've built a heavy duty extension cord that plugs into the dryer outlet in the basement. Only thing is, the dryer is on the other end of the house. The cord goes from thecdryer outlet, out a basement window, through the back yard to the garage. This system kind of makes welding inconvenient. That's one thing I got right when I built my shop... 240v/100 amp service, heat and AC. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites