ecsi635j 34 #1 Posted November 22, 2020 Hello All Aside from making some progress on my 520H front loader build and knowing I'll eventually be needing rear wheel weights, I've been on the look out for weights which might work. So, recently I think I may have discovered that front wheel weights off a Farmall Cub fit our 12" rear rims. The problem is, it seems these particular weights weigh only 25lbs each. My question for any one running these weights, is it possible to mount these weights on the inside and "Stackable" on the out side of the rim? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #2 Posted November 22, 2020 Not sure about the inside. Stackable, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecsi635j 34 #3 Posted November 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Not sure about the inside. Stackable, yes. Thank you ebinmaine. I've seen pictures on this forum some where but I can't seem to recall where. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,803 #4 Posted November 22, 2020 Putt Putt has stacked weights, they sure do make an incredible difference! I even notice when scooting it across the smooth pavement. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecsi635j 34 #5 Posted November 22, 2020 Thank you pullstart, 3 hours ago, pullstart said: Putt Putt has stacked weights, they sure do make an incredible difference! I even notice when scooting it across the smooth pavement. Thank you pullstart, so glad you posted that picture,Looks like they can in fact make a huge difference in traction if Putt Putt can pull that plough like he's doing. I'm hoping it may be possible to stack three per side.although Id'e imagine it would require some pretty long carriage bolts to accomplish that. . Might two weights per side be the maximum ? I don't know.? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,803 #6 Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ecsi635j said: Thank you pullstart, Thank you pullstart, so glad you posted that picture,Looks like they can in fact make a huge difference in traction if Putt Putt can pull that plough like he's doing. I'm hoping it may be possible to stack three per side.although Id'e imagine it would require some pretty long carriage bolts to accomplish that. . Might two weights per side be the maximum ? I don't know.? Not a problem! These ones have two hexes casted into the back of each weight across from each other and through holes perpendicular to those. To stack, you simply add a 5 or 6 inch into the back of the stacked weight then slide it over the previous bolts like wheel studs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,038 #7 Posted November 22, 2020 The Cub weights fit on the inside. You can put any 12" 50+ lb weight on the outside. You can also fill your tires with Rim Guard (beet juice) or RV antifreeze. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,312 #8 Posted November 22, 2020 They fit inside perfectly! I run a pair on the inside and Wheel Horse type 50# cast weights on the outside for a total of 76#’s on each side. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #9 Posted November 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, squonk said: fill your tires with Rim Guard (beet juice) I'm a huge proponent of doing this. There are benefits to having a fluid fill you don't get from air fill + exterior weight. Constant bead seat, more even ground pressure, no air pressure for better grab. I haven't added it checked air in Cinnamon Horse's tires in about 3 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #10 Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ecsi635j said: Might two weights per side be the maximum ? I don't know.? I've seen pics of Cubs with 5 or 6 stacked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #11 Posted November 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: fill your tires If you are wanting nice a nice lawn, caution.... they will leave depressions if the ground is soft. This pic is the morning after mow with frost. I used the worker 522xi with filled ag tires for the last mow. The filled 10.50's weigh in at just over 100 each. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #12 Posted November 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, JoeM said: If you are wanting nice a nice lawn, caution.... they will leave depressions if the ground is soft. This pic is the morning after mow with frost. I used the worker 522xi with filled ag tires for the last mow. The filled 10.50's weigh in at just over 100 each. Good info there Joe. Thanks. It's important for me to remember that although our land is fine other's may be soft. We mow with an older model push mower. Not a Horse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,038 #13 Posted November 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: We mow with an older model push mower. Not a Horse. OOOH!! Is it one of those cool wind up Briggs from the 60's? Or a rare Tecky powered model? 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #14 Posted November 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, squonk said: OOOH!! Is it one of those cool wind up Briggs from the 60's? Had one! real cool! 12 minutes ago, squonk said: a rare Tecky powered model Had one.....hated that Indian! It was harder to start then to cut the grass! Pull your guts out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecsi635j 34 #15 Posted November 22, 2020 As mentioned earlier, lots of really helpful people on this site, a big thank you to all. So really great info. many ways to go with this, I forgot to consider liquid ballast in combination with exterior wheel weight. I looked into beat juice a while back, weighs significantly more than water , unfortunately only found one west coast distributor way up in northern Ca. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,099 #16 Posted November 22, 2020 8 hours ago, ecsi635j said: I'll eventually be needing rear wheel weight When seeking a solution to a problem it is best to look inside. In this case you should look inside your tires, if you liquid fill the rear tires you can achieve a great deal of weight gain at very little cost. RV Antifreeze is my solution. SIZE GALLONS Per Tire WEIGHT in POUNDS 16x6.50-8 2.0 21.4 18x7.00-8 3.0 32.1 18x8.50-8 3.4 36.4 18x9.50-8 4.0 42.8 23x8.50-12 5.5 58.9 23x10.50-12 6.8 72.8 6-12 3.6 38.5 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,302 #17 Posted November 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, 953 nut said: When seeking a solution to a problem it is best to look inside. In this case you should look inside your tires, if you liquid fill the rear tires you can achieve a great deal of weight gain at very little cost. RV Antifreeze is my solution. SIZE GALLONS Per Tire WEIGHT in POUNDS 16x6.50-8 2.0 21.4 18x7.00-8 3.0 32.1 18x8.50-8 3.4 36.4 18x9.50-8 4.0 42.8 23x8.50-12 5.5 58.9 23x10.50-12 6.8 72.8 6-12 3.6 38.5 6.8 gallons of water would weigh 56.7 pounds, RV antifreeze weighs 1% more. The above chart would be correct for RimGuard. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #18 Posted November 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, lynnmor said: 6.8 gallons of water would weigh 56.7 pounds, RV antifreeze weighs 1% more. The above chart would be correct for RimGuard. Beat me to it. I was about to ask @953 nut what the weight represented. Thanks. 43 minutes ago, ecsi635j said: juice I'll start a thread and call you into it. ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,099 #19 Posted November 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I was about to ask @953 nut what the weight represented. Just a chart I plucked off the internet to give people an idea of the quantity they will need and the weight gain they can achieve at low cost. Darned internet anyway! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,038 #20 Posted November 22, 2020 My 23 x 10.50 ag's gained 65 lbs.each with RV antifreeze. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #21 Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, squonk said: OOOH!! Is it one of those cool wind up Briggs from the 60's? Or a rare Tecky powered model? No sir. It's a 20 or 30 year old Snapper. I try not to use the non-starting models such as above because although generally more quiet I don't have the energy to both constantly pull the cord to move the blade AND move the mower. I've found letting the machine run on its own is much much easier. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,038 #22 Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ecsi635j said: As mentioned earlier, lots of really helpful people on this site, a big thank you to all. So really great info. many ways to go with this, I forgot to consider liquid ballast in combination with exterior wheel weight. I looked into beat juice a while back, weighs significantly more than water , unfortunately only found one west coast distributor way up in northern Ca. Do it your self. Easy enough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,803 #23 Posted November 22, 2020 I made a mess with the first tire, but improved drastically on the second one! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cschannuth 3,816 #24 Posted November 22, 2020 I have inside weights, fluid in my rear tires, and 300ish pounds of rear weights and my tires have never lost traction. I also have my 240 in the seat, haha. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,309 #25 Posted November 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, cschannuth said: ..... 240 . That's a nice rear there but you still a lightweight. Signed, Bear. 🐻 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites