Project "Snow Drift"

[Oldskool 6,644]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

This is awesome

Ya just never know whats gonna end up on this bench. I have a long cast iron single basin sink coming soon to be made into a coal forge

[Oldskool 6,644]

Just now, Tractorhead said:

 

Minion Art for the Garden?

 

hihihi nice..

Yup the kiddo comes first. 

[19richie66 17,508]

Very nice fabrication 

[DennisThornton 4,769]

1 hour ago, Oldskool said:

The propane tanks were closest to size. Readily available  and cheap

Oh, without a doubt they are the best for this project!  

[Oldskool 6,644]

32 minutes ago, DennisThornton said:

Oh, without a doubt they are the best for this project!  

I think I would have been better off with 33 gal uprite air compressor tanks. Bigger diameter and probably a bit more round then the propane tanks. The big trick would have been finding 5 or 6 or the same

[DennisThornton 4,769]

46 minutes ago, Oldskool said:

I think I would have been better off with 33 gal uprite air compressor tanks. Bigger diameter and probably a bit more round then the propane tanks. The big trick would have been finding 5 or 6 or the same

Yeah, good luck with that!  I have no idea if you did the right thing but you did what I would have done!  

 

Next one maybe alum or plastic...

[Oldskool 6,644]

3 minutes ago, DennisThornton said:

Yeah, good luck with that!  I have no idea if you did the right thing but you did what I would have done!  

 

Next one maybe alum or plastic...

We will soon see

[Oldskool 6,644]

Messing around with templates for the blades today. I think I came up with more questions then answers

[ebinmaine 67,506]

53 minutes ago, Oldskool said:

Messing around with templates for the blades today. I think I came up with more questions then answers

I'm ok with that. Just click em off one at time....

[Oldskool 6,644]

3 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

I'm ok with that. Just click em off one at time....

I made a template for the auger blades. It encompasses a third of the spiral. In order for it to fit correctly it has to have a twist in it. That will require torches. If I'm going to need torches anyways do I use flat stock.? Heat bend tack repeat. Or do I shorten my template to a sixth of the spiral and maybe bend in the vise using a big wrench?. Or do I try and press form pieces cold still only going a sixth of the way at a time

Edited December 21, 2020 by Oldskool

[DennisThornton 4,769]

As usual, I have no idea, but I did picture you bending as you went.

[SylvanLakeWH 25,560]

Would regular old roller chain be a possible material for this application? It bends to a degree and might address the unique need for arcing... just spit balling...

[Oldskool 6,644]

2 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

Would regular old roller chain be a possible material for this application? It bends to a degree and might address the unique need for arcing... just spit balling...

Not to sure. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. I may be chasing weak link after weak link

[Stormin 9,981]

If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion. I don't know what you've used for a template, but 1/8" x 1" flat bar bends and twists fairly easily without heat.

Edited December 21, 2020 by Stormin

[Oldskool 6,644]

7 minutes ago, Stormin said:

If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion. I don't know what you've used for a template, but 1/8" x 1" flat bar bends and twists fairly easily without heat.

I used 1/8" for the template. Its 1-1/4" tall. That did twist easy. It's the 1/4 x 1-1/4 that will be a bit tougher

[Stormin 9,981]

I see. You'll need heat for that. It'll be a sloooow process.

 

Edited December 21, 2020 by Stormin

[Oldskool 6,644]

11 minutes ago, Stormin said:

I see. You'll need heat for that. It'll be a sloooow process.

 

I think if I go 1/6 of the distance at a time that will allow for less twist per each piece 

[Handy Don 12,232]

2 hours ago, Oldskool said:

I made a template for the auger blades. It encompasses a third of the spiral. In order for it to fit correctly it has to have a twist in it. That will require torches. If I'm going to need torches anyways do I use flat stock.? Heat bend tack repeat. Or do I shorten my template to a sixth of the spiral and maybe bend in the vise using a big wrench?. Or do I try and press form pieces cold still only going a sixth of the way at a time

Ultimately what you are going for is a stretched out slinky or spring. Those are made by cold rolling jigs. I think that's what you need here.  After all, you gotta make 12 of these--6 spiraling in one direction and six in the other.

But remember that I'm theorizing and YOU are building 

[Oldskool 6,644]

10 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

Ultimately what you are going for is a stretched out slinky or spring. Those are made by cold rolling jigs. I think that's what you need here.  After all, you gotta make 12 of these--6 spiraling in one direction and six in the other.

But remember that I'm theorizing and YOU are building 

Basically a slinky, yes. But even a slinky has a twist when stretched out. Oh I also Pm'd you

[Handy Don 12,232]

11 minutes ago, Oldskool said:

Basically a slinky, yes. But even a slinky has a twist when stretched out. Oh I also Pm'd you

Yes, it'd have to be "stretched" before you slide it on and tack it down but the twist is already in there as part of the stretching. The inner diameter would shrink slightly as it stretched.

Just saw the PM a few minutes ago and replied 

[ebinmaine 67,506]

1 hour ago, Oldskool said:

I think if I go 1/6 of the distance at a time that will allow for less twist per each piece 

I'd agree

[wallfish 17,000]

What about angle steel and cut a slot every ? 1 or 2 or 3 inches in the side which protrudes up? Bend and tack as you go along then weld the gaps from slots closed. Or do the same thing with bar stock.  Probably not a bad idea to put a heavy weld bead on the entire outer edge like they do with earth auger bits to make the edge harder and last longer.

Just more slinging against the wall to see what sticks

 

 

 

[Oldskool 6,644]

11 minutes ago, wallfish said:

What about angle steel and cut a slot every ? 1 or 2 or 3 inches in the side which protrudes up? Bend and tack as you go along then weld the gaps from slots closed. Or do the same thing with bar stock.  Probably not a bad idea to put a heavy weld bead on the entire outer edge like they do with earth auger bits to make the edge harder and last longer.

Just more slinging against the wall to see what sticks

 

 

 

Originally I had thought angle iron but it had it complications as well. I had thought about having the blades hard faced in the end. I do have to come up with something 

[wallfish 17,000]

Weld a thin piece then weld a thin piece on that first one then...

Grind to shape

Notice how fast I can go through your consumables?

 

 

 

[DennisThornton 4,769]

46 minutes ago, wallfish said:

Weld a thin piece then weld a thin piece on that first one then...

Grind to shape

Notice how fast I can go through your consumables?

 

 

 

I'm wondering if that might not be a good idea.  2 piece tapered screw thread, more like a real thread, wide base to a tip, from more bendable 1/8" plate.  Two sides, second plate starts wider at the base.  Weld, torch, bend, hammer and repeat.  Lots of repeating!  Gonna take a while but more agreeable than 1/4" plate.