Bill D 2,037 #1 Posted October 21, 2020 I found this oil at Walmart. Cheap and rated SG. Is anyone here using it? I didn't buy it yet. I would like some opinions on it first. Thanks. Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stepney 2,332 #2 Posted October 21, 2020 Oil is cheap.. engines are not. I use that type of thing in my old one lungers, but .. perhaps its just old fashioned bias, I wouldn't use anything but a good brand name high zinc oil in these engines. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,618 #3 Posted October 21, 2020 Here we go again 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,338 #4 Posted October 21, 2020 30w shell rottela . T1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,550 #5 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Tuul Crib said: 30w shell rottela . T1 Indeed ...all day long Rotella 30. With Zinc additive Have used Castrol GTX 30 with a zinc additive...makes things smooth !!! In a pinch Edited October 21, 2020 by johnnymag3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,338 #6 Posted October 21, 2020 Bought some of this for my truck the other day. I treated my 414 to a couple tablespoonz! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,747 #7 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Oils today are much better than oils back in the late 50's and 60's. The secret is to change oil frequently and check the level often and then it shouldn't matter what you use. Edited October 21, 2020 by rmaynard spelling 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,335 #8 Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, rjg854 said: Here we go again This question seems to come up at least once a month. Here are a few you can read over. or just click on the link at the bottom and see all 797 titles listed chronologically! https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?q=oil&quick=1&type=forums_topic&search_in=titles 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #9 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) You use what works for you. Everyone lives in different environments and uses there equipment in different ways. My late dad was a Pennzoil guy. I use what ever is cheap and works. Currently i live in northeast indiana and i dont use my machine to any where near there intended purposes. I use Rural King oil Harvest king sae 30. I use it in all my old iron horses and deere. Except my 2010 JD x540 I used valvoline max life 10w30 it calls for a high class oil because deere's are snobby you know. . My late dad used sae 30 all year around and we never blew a gasket or had other issues. Dads theory on the old single cylinder engines along with other garden tractor guys around my area also agree. The engine will get just as hot in the winter if not hotter if snow gets up in and around the engine while your working it so just stick with the oil that is thick and will take the abuse. I also have not had any issues due to the oil i use. My big d series i used harvest king sae 10w30. Im thinking next time i may use the max life on the d160. Any Thoughts on using max life in the d160? My question is what is the big diference in oils besides thickness or coating potential? Edited October 21, 2020 by bottjernat1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 69,180 #10 Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, rmaynard said: Oils today are much better than oils back in the late 50's and 60's. The secret is to change oil frequently and check the level often and then it shouldn't matter what you use. I'll be over here sitting on the bench with Bob... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,550 #11 Posted October 21, 2020 Me too......Hey grab me some Pahpcorn too.....THANKS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,550 #12 Posted October 21, 2020 Oil IS NOT Oil............ I don't want to be using some man made reformulated oil that was already used is another engine.....cooked down, filtered, additives added..ETC> Im gonna get the good stuff !!!! I LOVE MY MACHINES !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,550 #13 Posted October 21, 2020 Caution....... Don't let Peter Lena hear you say oil is oil...he will give ya a good beat down !!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 2,037 #14 Posted October 21, 2020 I only asked because I have an M12 with 1300 hours that's burning alot of oil. I thought maybe I would just feed it the cheap stuff until I can scare up the cash for a rebuild. Bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 69,180 #15 Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Bill D said: I only asked because I have an M12 with 1300 hours that's burning alot of oil. I thought maybe I would just feed it the cheap stuff until I can scare up the cash for a rebuild. Bill Given that particular scenario I would absolutely run inexpensive oil. I've not tried to concentrate on the pictures you posted. Does it by chance list the quantity of zinc or phosphate? I asked that mostly out of curiosity but I would still use that oil... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 2,037 #16 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) I has the older SG rating. Most small engine oil is SJ rated. It should have plenty of zinc with that designation. It's my understanding that this oil is made by Warren Oil company. Don't know much about them. This M12 still makes good power in spite of how much oil it uses. Edited October 21, 2020 by Bill D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 69,180 #17 Posted October 21, 2020 49 minutes ago, Bill D said: I has the older SG rating. Most small engine oil is SJ rated. It should have plenty of zinc with that designation. It's my understanding that this oil is made by Warren Oil company. Don't know much about them. This M12 still makes good power in spite of how much oil it uses. Without posting a link can you give me a rough idea how much that stuff is per court or whatever? I think I'm paying something like $4.50 a quart for Kinetix brand oil which supposedly has the correct amount of zinc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #18 Posted October 21, 2020 Make sure the breather below the carburetor is not clogged. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,550 #20 Posted October 21, 2020 Castrol straight 30w is 17.99 for 5 Qt. container at Walmart....look for it I am trying to find time to come see your new HORSEHOUSE . John 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 2,037 #21 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) I think this product has been discontinued. The stuff I saw on the store shelf is probably the last they had. Edited October 21, 2020 by Bill D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,394 #22 Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I'll be over here sitting on the bench with Bob... lol popcorn ? I found Valvoline VR1 conventional oil at local parts store (Advance ?) - might give it a try if I do give it a try - it will be the first conventional oil I've used in decades since the late 80's I have used synthetic oil in everything : cars, trucks , motorcycles - and tractors including the old Wheel Horse 704 primarily Mobil 1 - but recently switched to Quaker State UD ( not a fan of Quaker State back in the 60's / 70's - but their current synthetic oil is supposed to be good ) Cannot recall the last time I purchased conventional oil - or straight grade oil ... ? ... possibly late 70's or early 80's but recently moved my in-laws out of their house and got some left over chemicals and lubricants - and now have a quart of 30w Wolf's Head ... Edited October 22, 2020 by tom2p 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,335 #23 Posted October 22, 2020 18 hours ago, roadapples said: Make sure the breather below the carburetor is not clogged. If the crankcase vent is not open the pressure can lead to oil consumption. This information is from the troubleshooting guide of the Kohler Service Manual in our manuals section. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #24 Posted October 22, 2020 I like oil! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites