Jimmy0331 27 #1 Posted October 14, 2020 Hello all, so I have a 1969 raider 12 and 1964 654. Will the plow from 654 fit on the raider? If not what plow and frame do I need. Thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,019 #2 Posted October 14, 2020 The 654 is a short frame tractor The Raider 12 is a long frame tractor. Depends on the age of the dozer on the 654 if it will fit the Raider 12. You can likely figure it out from this list Dozer DNA of short tractor frame dozer blades 1961 model BD-4271 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle - replaced by 1962 model BD-4262 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle 1963 model BD-4263 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle 1964 model BD-4264 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle 1965-1966 model BD-4264A - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle 1967 model BD-4267 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle 1968 model 6-2111 - Fits SHORT frame tractors - Mounts ahead of the rear axle ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1968 model 6-4111 - First to fit LONG & SHORT frame tractors and first to mount under the rear axle - replaced by 1969 model [6-4112 + 6-9621] 1970-73 model [6-4113 + 6-9622] 1973-74 model [6-4113 + 6-9623] 1974 model [6-4114 + 6-9624] 1974 model 6-2131 1975 model 6-2132 1976 model 6-2133 1976 model 66-42BC01 1977 model 76-42BC01 1978 model 86-42BC01 1979 model 96-42BC01 1980 model 06-42BC01 1981-1984 model 06-42BC02 (Up to here they are 42" wide) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1984-1989 model 06-48BC01 (They are now 48" wide) 1990 model 06-48BC02 (Last blade to have 3 angle positions) 1991-1993 model 06-48BC03 (First blade to have 5 angle positions) 1993-2001 model 79350 - (105-1502 kit adapts 2001 and older GT Classic-Series blades to fit 2002 and later tractors 2002 2004-2009 2012 model 79364 - (105-1501 kit adapts 79364 blade to fit 2001 and older GT Classic-Series) A 2012 blade will fit the 654. Questions? Garry 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,121 #3 Posted October 14, 2020 A short frame plow has a true triangle shaped frame. Both beams are straight. A long frame plow has a section of the frame that's parallel, then it turns in toward the pivot. It appears yours is a short frame plow so it won't fit the Raider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 37,944 #4 Posted October 14, 2020 A short (A shaped plow frame on your 654) will not fit a long frame tractor like your Raider. Some long frame plow frames will fit long or short frame tractors if they have the bottom mounted axle bracket. The older short frame tractors had a front mounted axle bracket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #5 Posted October 14, 2020 Thank. yeah the 654 is mounted on the front of the rear axle. I was pretty sure it wouldn’t work but just wanted to confirm. Thanks again for all the info. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #6 Posted October 14, 2020 Here’s better pics 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,121 #7 Posted October 14, 2020 You should be able to pick up a plow frame with plow either 42 or 48 wide for somewhere in the neighborhood of $125 to $200 depending on condition and location. Most important thing with plowing is going to be traction. Chains with lots of weights and that Raider would be a monster machine in the snow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #8 Posted October 14, 2020 Yeah I have weights and chains I don’t have them on yet. I use raider to mow so I take them off in spring. I also have the snow thrower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
