Jims plow day 2019 carnage

[prondzy 3,881]

 

Ok, so last year's plow day at J&C stables was a great time as usual.  Just as the final hours of the day were wrapping up my plow rig just stoppped dead in her tracks still screaming at 3600 rpm. I was dead in the water. Got pulled off the field checking over the obvious i couldnt see anything wrong. Fall got busy and i parked the tractor, on to winter, then spring,  summer shows up and passes now here we are 3 weeks from Jims plow day 2020. Time to fix the tractor.  Heres the patient ready to go under the knife

Got the transmission off

 

Split the cases can you see the problem already?

Let me remove a few more gears so you can see

 

Just to answer questions this is a 5060 transmission (6 speed) that i converted to 8 pinion differential.  This is the gear on the end of the input shaft that makes contact with the big gear on the brake shaft. I will have to dig around and see what i have in the parts bins tomorrow. 

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

When you work them hard, sometimes things break!  Thanks for sharing with us, this issue and the remedy...👍🏻

[Bill D 1,926]

Got any drawings for that transmission lift? That looks like a real back saver.  Bill

[953 nut 55,325]

             Here is a simple solution to removing an installing the transmission I came up with. It is high enough that the wheels and tires do not have to be removed.

 

[ebinmaine 67,686]

10 hours ago, prondzy said:

you see the problem

Well. I find that most working transmissions don't have 2 piece gears. 

 

I have an 8 speed that's for parts. Don't know if a 6 speed has the same gear. 

 

If the gear I have will work for you it's yours for the freight cost. 

 

 

[WHX?? 48,833]

Dan or I may have a couple of those gears if none in your's or Dad's stash. Worse comes to worse I have a complete 5060 ready to roll. 

I may have asked you this but why the conversion to 8 pinion? Steel side plates? 

[WHX?? 48,833]

Wasn't the first time someone got pulled off the plow field.... won't be the last! 

[AMC RULES 37,132]

  Like pink salt in an open wound your are!  

 

Edited October 5, 2020 by AMC RULES

[Shynon 7,459]

21 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

Wasn't the first time someone got pulled off the plow field.... won't be the last! 

Seems to be the same guy every year We'll I guess there always has to be one in the groupAt least he shows up with a running tractor @Rp.wh

[Rp.wh 1,103]

1 minute ago, Shynon said:

At least he shows up with a running tractor @Rp.wh

This is all true better check the oil again too , 

[prondzy 3,881]

39 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

Dan or I may have a couple of those gears if none in your's or Dad's stash. Worse comes to worse I have a complete 5060 ready to roll. 

I may have asked you this but why the conversion to 8 pinion? Steel side plates? 

Was aluminum plates Jim

[prondzy 3,881]

29 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

Wasn't the first time someone got pulled off the plow field.... won't be the last! 

Gonna start welding broken parts the the front ballast weight to remind the rest of you that your horses aint workin hard enough!

[squonk 41,164]

Pull a 8" plow and plow all day. 

Pull a 12" plow and work all night to plow the next day. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. 

[ebinmaine 67,686]

48 minutes ago, prondzy said:

Gonna start welding broken parts the the front ballast weight

That's actually a hekkuva trophy idea. 

 

I'd do it. 

 

[Shynon 7,459]

4 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

That's actually a hekkuva trophy idea. 

 

I'd do it. 

 

I'm thinking that transmission is cursed. I'd hang it on the front and put in a different one.

[ebinmaine 67,686]

7 minutes ago, Shynon said:

I'm thinking that transmission is cursed. I'd hang it on the front and put in a different one.

I'm ok with that too.

Bigger trophy. More weight. 

 

[prondzy 3,881]

Found a couple replacements will get this back together this week.

Edited October 4, 2020 by prondzy

[Pullstart 62,921]

I might start using broken Norman parts to weigh down my plow rig, then we can drive over the scales to see the before and after like the biggest loser shows do!

[stevasaurus 22,765]

I was going to say, without looking, I think that gear is in every transmission at least twice.  First time I've seen that one go though.

[Greentored 3,216]

On 10/3/2020 at 10:07 PM, prondzy said:

 

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@prondzy Here we go off subject (and this is a great subject- dang, you guys have some fun!) but what muffler is that, and is it quiet? Looking for something nice and quiet for the lawn duty 1277, and really want to go back to a stack.

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,686]

@Greentored

Scott that looks like a Cub muffler turned in the upward direction kind of like I have on my Patriot horse. Nice quiet low tone. You'd like it.

 

You can get cheap ones on the flea Bay anywhere between 30 and $50...

[prondzy 3,881]

7 hours ago, Greentored said:

 

Its a cub muffler, just grind off the mount on the pipe. Cut the stack flush on the end and add a rain topper

[WHX?? 48,833]

You may not like them Green... low mellow tone and quiet. Not quite your cup o tea.

 I love  them you  can actually hear the motor working. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kohler-Cub-Cadet-Clamp-On-Replacement-Muffler-237550S-393840-R91/181230146515?hash=item2a322893d3:g:vGQAAOxydyxSSx~n&redirect=mobiles

You want a stack go to @Achto 's school of stack building. 

I took that one and put in on the Raider 12 plow mule which is one sweet running 301 now.  You'll get to hear it Mike. 

 

Edited October 9, 2020 by WHX24

[prondzy 3,881]

Got the transmission back together saturday, made a few upgrades, double set screws, new woodruff keys, and studs/lug nuts. I noticed some cracking on the gusset plates need to address this next.

[WHX?? 48,833]

That input pully is huge... what gear do you run in? I don't remember the few times I have plowed with that tractor.

I also put the thick washers behind the lug studs. I feel the studs just seat better.