Hood stops

[JustinW.73 224]

Anyone ever made a hood stop for wheel horses? My 856s hood almost touches the ground and I’m not happy with that when it’s all done being restored. I’ve been thinking about doing a cable or something else. Wanted to see if anyone did anything to theirs. 

[peter lena 8,580]

justin , i can relate to your question , it would be easy to install a cable hood stop. what i did was improve the actual swing point , used " fender washers " on each side of bolt point also used elastic lock nuts to maintain the friction setting along with lubricant for smooth solid function.  https://www.homedepot.com/b/Hardware-Fasteners-Washers-Fender-Washers/N-5yc1vZc283 , only using this as a picture point , your local h/w store should have them in the small pull out drawer section , but you will easily see the advantage of more contact and control in a swing area , just an idea , pete

[Racinbob 11,044]

That's a common problem with a lot of them during that time period. On my 500 Special I added a piece of stock to the front of the frame and solved the problem. This is the best picture I have of it. You can see it just under the bend rod that the hood pivots on. 

 

[JustinW.73 224]

48 minutes ago, peter lena said:

justin , i can relate to your question , it would be easy to install a cable hood stop. what i did was improve the actual swing point , used " fender washers " on each side of bolt point also used elastic lock nuts to maintain the friction setting along with lubricant for smooth solid function.  https://www.homedepot.com/b/Hardware-Fasteners-Washers-Fender-Washers/N-5yc1vZc283 , only using this as a picture point , your local h/w store should have them in the small pull out drawer section , but you will easily see the advantage of more contact and control in a swing area , just an idea , pete

I guess I don’t understand the lock nuts. Mine just has round stock as a hood pivot and uses clips on both ends to capture it. 

[JustinW.73 224]

40 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

That's a common problem with a lot of them during that time period. On my 500 Special I added a piece of stock to the front of the frame and solved the problem. This is the best picture I have of it. You can see it just under the bend rod that the hood pivots on. 

 

Does it scratch up the hood at all?

[Racinbob 11,044]

I'm gonna say no. Of course where the hood pivots on the rod will lose some paint but that's normal and can't be stopped. 

[Racinbob 11,044]

Here's another shot of it. I installed it prior to painting the frame and it's very hard to see. 

 

[Racinbob 11,044]

The hood doesn't rub on it at all. It's just a stop and makes up for the wear that happens to all of them.

[peter lena 8,580]

justin , just about all the w/h models are slightly different in small areas , my common problem was a sloppy hood hinge set up, so i looked at what i could do , and made the change , i ended up doing that to my three horses , i have an 82 black hood , a 91 and a 93 312-8 , all have the tightentable hood hinge , allowing me to eliminate the sloppy front drop. as you can see racin bob made made a change that works for him , do you have the space to cut a thread in the place of the clips ? if you do , a die nut makes the threads and an elastic nut holds the tension. if you can send us a picture , i'm sure  the answer is hiding in plane sight , pete

  

[peter lena 8,580]

justin , just about all the w/h models are slightly different in small areas , my common problem was a sloppy hood hinge set up, so i looked at what i could do , and made the change , i ended up doing that to my three horses , i have an 82 black hood , a 91 and a 93 312-8 , all have the tightentable hood hinge , allowing me to eliminate the sloppy front drop. as you can see racin bob made made a change that works for him , do you have the space to cut a thread in the place of the clips ? if you do , a die nut makes the threads and an elastic nut holds the tension. if you can send us a picture , i'm sure  the answer is hiding in plane sight , pete

  

[peter lena 8,580]

justin , i was just snoopin around and found the picture i want , there is a picture of your hood swing point , hood issue. i think  the die nut threading of that round rod would allow you to fender washer and elastic lock nut that hood to a controlled movement, pete

 

[Racinbob 11,044]

Peter, I think what Justin is talking about is when he opens the hood it no longer stops in the tilted up position and will keep tilting all the way to the ground. Sloppy pivot points will add to that but usually not cause it. I did drill out the hood holes and installed bushings to eliminate that slop but it didn't help with Justins issue. On this style there's sheetmetal on the bottom of the hood that is supposed to hit the front of the frame and stop the hood. Over the years it gets 'hammered' down and doesn't contact the frame enough to stop the hood. In effect I lengthened the frame by bringing the frame stop point closer to the hood stop point. As I was pondering what to do one thought was to bend the round pivot point closer to the frame. Then it hit me that it could move the hood back and not latch properly. 

[peter lena 8,580]

racin , i was thinking about that , maybe it would just be easier to install a couple of  light cable or chain limit fasteners. i have bolted a couple of angle steel ears to the front end of the frame , to install lift springs , for snow plow ,those could also easily hold a hood in place, this should not be difficult, pete

[ebinmaine 67,275]

1 hour ago, peter lena said:

  light cable

Trina's 2 '67's are quite different. One goes forward a lot and the other stops as needed. I've considered getting a short section of cable with a spring on 1 end to let the hood hang on the cable. 

[cschannuth 3,816]

My ‘78 Blackhood uses a cable from the engine to the hood. The next time I’m at the garage I can get a pic if it helps. I assume since the hood is not metal it had to have the cable stop to prevent breaking the hood if a conventional WH hood stop had been used. 

[JustinW.73 224]

I did order some bushings to see if that helps at all. Otherwise I may just have to deal with it since it’s all painted.