This time I had to get the big guy out!

[formariz 11,987]

I can’t take a trailer into to my property using the van since somehow I can’t back the thing down my steep driveway. So I always get a tractor to do that from street. It’s always a heavy load so the big guy comes out.

 

 

 

 

[WHNJ701 4,165]

What's the car in the drive?

[Pullstart 62,792]

1 minute ago, jabelman said:

What's the car in the drive?

good eye!  Maybe a Stingray fender?

[WHNJ701 4,165]

7 minutes ago, pullstart said:

good eye!  Maybe a Stingray fender?

Yeah the grill got thinking vette too

Edited September 25, 2020 by jabelman

[formariz 11,987]

Looks like we can also make a whatizit out of this one?

[WHNJ701 4,165]

Hmmm, it's rag top.  Kinda looks british too, but I am only seeing it on my phone.  Are the mirrors up front on the fender's?

[johnnymag3 2,515]

Looks chevrolet to me...????1969 ???   Vette ???

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

Nice tractor!! 

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

Resto mod??

[formariz 11,987]

You guys are letting your imaginations run wild. Its nothing that glamorous. Its actually outright conservative.

[ebinmaine 67,277]

What's the trailer weight?

 

No good guess on the car but it just doesn't quite have the right lines for a vette...

 

 

[formariz 11,987]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

What's the trailer weight?

 

No good guess on the car but it just doesn't quite have the right lines for a vette...

 

 

One yard of 3/4” crushed stone is I believe anywhere from 2500 to 2900lbs plus trailer. Well over what trailer is rated for I think.

 

Nothing special with car but it dies have pretty high performance.

[squonk 41,025]

Put a ball on the front of the tractor and you can drive the tractor and steer the trailer. Spin the tractor around and drive it out like you normally would.  My neck hurts just looking at that driveway. 

[ebinmaine 67,277]

Nice job moving that weight. Good load for a horse.

[formariz 11,987]

18 minutes ago, squonk said:

Put a ball on the front of the tractor and you can drive the tractor and steer the trailer. Spin the tractor around and drive it out like you normally would.  My neck hurts just looking at that driveway. 

That would be dangerous coming down this driveway . I need to pull trailer down driveway very slowly so tractor acts as a brake and I can steer. The other way trailer would just pull tractor down with it and I would have no control.

 As it is I have to already aim tractor and trailer correctly in case trailer pushes it. It already happen a couple of times that it pushed tractor all the way down with the wheels locked. That was with a wet load of stone dust. That is also the reason car is moved all the way to the other side Just in case.

The only issue is bringing trailer in with a load since I can’t back it in with van. I don’t think I would feel very comfortable doing it any way.

[formariz 11,987]

24 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Nice job moving that weight. Good load for a horse.

I very often push all my horses to the limit specially this one and the RJ many times past their limits and mine.

[squonk 41,025]

I don't know. Seems to me if the trailer can drag the tractor down the hill, it could just as easily push it. At least if the trailer was in front you could at least steer and see where you were going. 

[ebinmaine 67,277]

1 minute ago, formariz said:

I very often push all my horses to the limit specially this one and the RJ many times past their limits and mine.

Work em. 

That's what they's built for. 

 

Do you have fluid-filled tires? That would help your weight and traction significantly. 

[formariz 11,987]

6 minutes ago, squonk said:

I don't know. Seems to me if the trailer can drag the tractor down the hill, it could just as easily push it. At least if the trailer was in front you could at least steer and see where you were going. 

It does push it sometimes. I feel more comfortable this way with tractor in front.

[squonk 41,025]

Ok for some reason I thought you were backing the trailer down. My bad! 

[formariz 11,987]

11 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Work em. 

That's what they's built for. 

 

Do you have fluid-filled tires? That would help your weight and traction significantly. 

I don't. So far I have never had a problem with traction on either the RJ or the 520 since they are well plants with weight. I have an adapter for the hitch on the 520 that allows me to place an additional 200 lbs back there and still use the hitch for the trailer. Sometimes if I am not sure that I am going to make it I deflate tires to about 6 lbs.

[ebinmaine 67,277]

3 minutes ago, formariz said:

It does push it sometimes. I feel more comfortable this way with tractor in front.

Assuming you are driving forward down the hill towing the trailer behind you...

Forklift and heavy load equipment training tells us you are correct for two different reasons. The heaviest part of the load should always be uphill. The other reason is because your brakes are getting the most pressure on them if the trailer tongue is on the back of the tractor.

[lynnmor 7,302]

I believe your owners manual says 350lb maximum.

 

Correction, I just looked it up, the weight limit is 275lb.

Edited September 25, 2020 by lynnmor

[ebinmaine 67,277]

1 minute ago, formariz said:

I don't. So far I have never had a problem with traction on either the RJ or the 520 since they are well plants with weight. I have an adapter for the hitch on the 520 that allows me to place an additional 200 lbs back there and still use the hitch for the trailer. Sometimes if I am not sure that I am going to make it I deflate tires to about 6 lbs.

On my own Cinnamon Horse which does all the heavy towing I keep my tires at about 8 lb if air filled, near zero if fluid filled, all the time.

 

I really like that idea about the extra weight on the hitch. I feel like you've brought that up before but I don't know if you shared any pictures. I'd like to see that if you don't mind sometime.

 

If you get the opportunity to have rimguard installed as a fluid fill for all four tires it would be a good benefit.

 

IMHO ... my own experiences show me that the fluid has a couple of benefits over the wheel mounted weights.

The fluid is in a constant state of pushing down with all of its weight on the very bottom of the tire which of course is the contact patch. It is literally squeezing the tire right to the very ground that it is trying to grab. It also greatly reduces the chance of having a bead get loosened up or roll out because it is constantly pushing the bead against the rim right at the bottom.

Another thing I've noted recently which isn't exactly a big deal but it is something. It's physically impossible for rubber to hold air because the molecules of air are smaller than the molecules of rubber. A couple times a year I have to add a little air to tires but not the fluid filled ones...

[formariz 11,987]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

On my own Cinnamon Horse which does all the heavy towing I keep my tires at about 8 lb if air filled, near zero if fluid filled, all the time.

 

I really like that idea about the extra weight on the hitch. I feel like you've brought that up before but I don't know if you shared any pictures. I'd like to see that if you don't mind sometime.

 

If you get the opportunity to have rimguard installed as a fluid fill for all four tires it would be a good benefit.

 

IMHO ... my own experiences show me that the fluid has a couple of benefits over the wheel mounted weights.

The fluid is in a constant state of pushing down with all of its weight on the very bottom of the tire which of course is the contact patch. It is literally squeezing the tire right to the very ground that it is trying to grab. It also greatly reduces the chance of having a bead get loosened up or roll out because it is constantly pushing the bead against the rim right at the bottom.

Another thing I've noted recently which isn't exactly a big deal but it is something. It's physically impossible for rubber to hold air because the molecules of air are smaller than the molecules of rubber. A couple times a year I have to add a little air to tires but not the fluid filled ones...

I use that extra weight if I am pulling a real heavily loaded four wheel wagon since I need all possible traction for that. With the utility trailer that is usually not necessary since the tongue puts a lot of weight on back of tractor . Ill put it on and take some photos once I unload this trailer.

I agree with your thoughts about the fluid filled tires. Perhaps Ill get to that before winter.