Brake Band Re-Line

[71_Bronco 1,072]

Just ordered my second liner from @rmaynard for my Lawn Ranger. I have 2 bands that I need to re-line now, one for the Lawn Ranger and one for my Commando 8 8-speed swap. Figured I'd do them at the same time.

 

Just curious how easy (or hard) it is to get off the old material. Will I need to scrape / pry off the old stuff, then wire-wheel the inside to clean any residue and prep the surface for the silicone?

 

I picked up a bottle of clear GE Silicone per rmaynard's recommendations to adhere the new liner in place.

 

Just trying to figure out if this is going to be a 5 minute job or an afternoon job.

 

Thanks!

[ebinmaine 67,408]

13 minutes ago, 71_Bronco said:

Just trying to figure out if this is going to be a 5 minute job or an afternoon job

I'd say about halfway between the two. 

IF there's any material that's loose enough to get a screwdriver behind go ahead and pop it in there and twist out whatever you can get. 

The rest of it what i do is put the brake band in a vise and get a wire wheel most of the size of the internal diameter. Get a dust mask on and get going... when shiny ... done.

 

To adhere the new shoe to the band we normally use six or ten zip ties.

 

[rmaynard 15,434]

There is never a set amount of time. Each band is different. Most old linings just fall off, others, especially those that have been re-glued, can be a bear. Once all the residual junk has been removed, a stiff wire brush should clean it up nice.

 

You mentioned a "bottle" of clear silicone. My recommendation is 100% silicone adhesive/caulk as shown below.

 

Edited September 11, 2020 by rmaynard

[71_Bronco 1,072]

4 minutes ago, rmaynard said:

There is never a set amount of time. Each band is different. Most old linings just fall off, others, especially those that have been re-glued, can be a bear. Once all the residual junk has been removed, a stiff wire brush should clean it up nice.

 

You mentioned a "bottle" of clear silicone. My recommendation is 100% silicone adhesive/caulk as shown below.

 

 

Yup, thats the exact stuff I got. Bottle, Tube, Tomato, Tamoto lol

[rmaynard 15,434]

I hear ya...your lining is in today's mail. Thanks! 

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[oliver2-44 9,726]

If you have the brake drum off, I've used it as a mandrel for the installation. Wrap the drum in clear kitchen plastic such as Saran Wrap. Put silicone on the lining/band and put them together. Then put them around the brake and use zip ties through the ban mounting holes to pull it tight around the drum .

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

I would let the silicone fully cure

for at least 24 hrs.

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

We used this silicone to stick granite tops two plywood frames On the buses the buses that I build. I would glue them down 

in the morning so they would be.ready the next day.

[dsholler 54]

Any recommendations for cleaning the band if you cannot get it off the tractor? The threads on the rod that pulls the brake band are damaged at the very end, so I cannot get the nut off for love nor money (well, without cutting it off and rethreading the rod, which seemed rather drastic). My thought was to remove the two machine screws and the plate that hold the band on in the front, sand and wire brush the band as best I could with it still attached to the tractor, and glue the new pad from @rmaynardon there. I am using the Goop not the silicone. 

(this is a bit embarrassing. He sent me the pad months ago and I am just getting around to it now....but it is pretty obvious why it wouldn't stop!) 

Edited November 22, 2020 by dsholler

[sqrlgtr 552]

can you take the rod off the pedal and get all of off tractor at one time???

[953 nut 55,175]

I always glue the lining to the band on the tractor. After cleaning the band I install it then spread the adhesive on the lining, slip it in place and set the parking brake and don't touch it for 24 hours.

[WHNJ701 4,165]

@rmaynard do offer custom sizes for the brake lining?  A tractor I am working on now has 3/4" wide woven bands

[rmaynard 15,434]

1 minute ago, jabelman said:

@rmaynard do offer custom sizes for the brake lining?  A tractor I am working on now has 3/4" wide woven bands

 

Sorry, but I only offer the one size. But since they are 1-1/2" wide, you may be able to score one down the middle and snap it in half.

[ebinmaine 67,408]

58 minutes ago, jabelman said:

@rmaynard do offer custom sizes for the brake lining?  A tractor I am working on now has 3/4" wide woven bands

Mcmaster Carr sells a few sizes. 

[dsholler 54]

9 hours ago, 953 nut said:

I always glue the lining to the band on the tractor. After cleaning the band I install it then spread the adhesive on the lining, slip it in place and set the parking brake and don't touch it for 24 hours.

This sounds like a good idea in theory,, but knowing me and glue, I am going to surround the band with paper and hold the shoe on with zip ties. Otherwise I might glue the tractor in place. 

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