656 warn planetary gears worked to hard.

[C_hasbeen 249]

Fall plowing deep as my 6 HP techumseh could do in hard clay, I was pulling good and would find a hard pan and turn up chunks the size of a large cat and the little 6 horse pulled down hard and would get through and on we would go until the differential gears started shedding teeth I guess.  I heard a racket then nothing again when I went to turn the differential seemed locked and we'll things went south from there.  On the good side of things my new bearings, seals and third gear are all happy!  I guess parts hunting is option one.

[71_Bronco 1,072]

Yikes. Glad it wasn't worse. Should be easily fixed.

[ebinmaine 68,330]

What type of transmission and what size axles?

[Greentored 3,217]

...and if @ebinmaine cant help ya, I have an 856 trans with a hole blown in the case. Never been in it, but maybe would luck out and have most, if not all what you need.

[The Tuul Crib 7,337]

Dang!!!

[953 nut 55,769]

Never seen one blow apart like that, looks like plenty of oil in it too. The differential from any '63 or later  will fit if the axles are the same size.

[C_hasbeen 249]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

What type of transmission and what size axles?

The axles are 1 inch this is the 553 transmission  I believe.  It is in my 1966 656.  

[ebinmaine 68,330]

@Greentored

Scott if you have one you can disassemble that would be the way to go.

[ebinmaine 68,330]

I thought that would have 1" axles but wasn't sure. My parts transmissions have the larger size.

[C_hasbeen 249]

8 hours ago, 71_Bronco said:

Yikes. Glad it wasn't worse. Should be easily fixed.

Yep, I always feel lucky when something can be repaired, especially an easy parts swap!  

[C_hasbeen 249]

1 hour ago, Greentored said:

...and if @ebinmaine cant help ya, I have an 856 trans with a hole blown in the case. Never been in it, but maybe would luck out and have most, if not all what you need.

If you have parts you can spare I would be interested 

[WHX?? 49,157]

And I thought I had tranny problems! Make sure you get all those chips out of there and go with a magnetic drain plug when she goes back together. 

[AMC RULES 37,134]

[Greentored 3,217]

@C_hasbeen ill be up at the stables this weekend and will take a look. History unknown, it came with a trailer load of parts and has a hole punched in the center rear, looks like maybe a case of 'bull gear nut comes off and gets wedged' ive heard can happen.

It does turn, so hopefully perhaps some good parts you could use.

[C_hasbeen 249]

3 hours ago, Greentored said:

@C_hasbeen ill be up at the stables this weekend and will take a look. History unknown, it came with a trailer load of parts and has a hole punched in the center rear, looks like maybe a case of 'bull gear nut comes off and gets wedged' ive heard can happen.

It does turn, so hopefully perhaps some good parts you could use.

Sounds wonderful I am back standing by.

[Tractorhead 9,065]

8 hours ago, WHX24 said:

 go with a magnetic drain plug when she goes back together. 

 

Yap, that‘s definitely a great idea.

i thinkering allready about, if i should be provided my 656 with a magnetic drain plug or not,

but after seeing this i‘m sure i will definitely go that Way.

Thanks @WHX24for this reminder 

 

and @C_hasbeen good luck for a quick fix.

 

[C_hasbeen 249]

On 9/10/2020 at 11:21 AM, Greentored said:

@C_hasbeen ill be up at the stables this weekend and will take a look. History unknown, it came with a trailer load of parts and has a hole punched in the center rear, looks like maybe a case of 'bull gear nut comes off and gets wedged' ive heard can happen.

It does turn, so hopefully perhaps some good parts you could use.

@Greentored  before you go to the effort on splitting that case, I have a fella 20 miles from me digging up some from a previous rebuild, I will know tomorrow  if I am set to go with out inconvenience  you to split a case.

[C_hasbeen 249]

12 hours ago, C_hasbeen said:

@Greentored  before you go to the effort on splitting that case, I have a fella 20 miles from me digging up some from a previous rebuild, I will know tomorrow  if I am set to go with out inconvenience  you to split a case.

Parts found and traded for!  He needed parts to build his 6hho techumseh and I had what he needed and he had more than I need he has a 656 also and wanted to get a cast iron engine back in it propper!

[C_hasbeen 249]

Thanks so much to everyone, now to clean my case and all get my magnetic drain plus and reassembled.

[squonk 41,321]

On 9/10/2020 at 8:51 AM, AMC RULES said:

The Ghost of Edmund F. Tecumseh traveled down to the transmission! 

Edited September 12, 2020 by squonk

[stevasaurus 22,863]

I don't see any axle gears in that box??   

[C_hasbeen 249]

8 hours ago, stevasaurus said:

I don't see any axle gears in that box??   

Yep I have them installed and all back ready for oil and put my hubs and wheel on.  I may have already set them out when I grabbed a snapshot

[ebinmaine 68,330]

11 hours ago, squonk said:

Edmund F. Tecumseh

 

 

Care to elaborate on who that might be exactly?

 

[squonk 41,321]

5 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

Care to elaborate on who that might be exactly?

 

Edmund usually lurks inside Tecky carburetors throwing out carbuncles on occasion on a perfectly running engine. Usually right in the middle of mowing a big yard. Sometimes he casts a spell on crankshafts and connecting rods. This is the first known incident in a transmission 

[Greentored 3,217]

On 9/12/2020 at 11:28 AM, C_hasbeen said:

Parts found and traded for!  He needed parts to build his 6hho techumseh and I had what he needed and he had more than I need he has a 656 also and wanted to get a cast iron engine back in it propper!

Awesome!  I did drag my broken trans out, but the hubs were not coming off and got a soaking with PB blaster.

Glad ya got it handled!