ClassicTractorProfessor 5,314 #1 Posted August 25, 2020 I’ve been a Ford guy my whole life...but I’m starting to see GM trucks outnumbering the Fords here in the yard...the only Ford we have left is the trusty old 89 F250. Then we have an 02 Suburban, my 98 Chevy 2500, and just added this 99 GMC Suburban to the fleet...Mom and Dad bought this new in August of 98 and tonight I bought it from them. 179k miles...only rig in the yard with under 200k on it 8 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,285 #2 Posted August 25, 2020 @JCM lookitt here 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,037 #3 Posted August 25, 2020 I drive a 2013 Ford E350 van for work. My wife doesn't want it parked here! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redneckdavis 308 #4 Posted August 25, 2020 My wife's 02 Silverado and a crappy Corvair I have for sale are the only two in my yard. I make sure they're outnumbered by the 78f100, 67 f100, 72 firetruck, 78bronco and my new 04 powerstroke and 2 Ford tractors. You have to fight back!!! Go buy more:) 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,711 #5 Posted August 25, 2020 I'm sorry @Redneckdavis, but tell me you don't use the Silverado to go get Ford parts. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,788 #6 Posted August 25, 2020 That would be a rust bucket here by now Prof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terry M-(Moderator) 2,175 #7 Posted August 25, 2020 The older GM trucks with the 350 engines I’ve seen go 300K or better if you do the maintenance and don’t abuse them....the newer stuff I’m not so sure. Over the last couple decades I’ve had a Chevy,GMC and 5 fords. I hate to say it but my next truck could be a Toyota Tundra...we’ll see. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redneckdavis 308 #8 Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, stevasaurus said: I'm sorry @Redneckdavis, but tell me you don't use the Silverado to go get Ford parts. No no no. That's why I have more than one:) and I send her for her own parts that way noone at the parts store knows I have it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,515 #9 Posted August 25, 2020 Shame on you....never go out without a BOWTIE. You may be Found On Road Dead.... O R D 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,037 #10 Posted August 25, 2020 I'm too tired to tell the story how I jinxed a Ford guy when I was working at Napa! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,515 #11 Posted August 25, 2020 See the 89 in the back .?? 220,000 miles, never had a repair. Plows every year.....but gets washed often !!! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horseyheaven 112 #12 Posted August 25, 2020 Have had both. Never could find a Chevy 350 that didn’t burn oil. I’m talking with only 60,000 miles on it. After 25 miles round trip to work it was time for another quart. Went Ford and never looked back. I’ve had great service out of Fords and no oil usage. My fleet of vehicles went the other way. Now all Ford, except for a Pontiac TransAm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redneckdavis 308 #13 Posted August 25, 2020 They were way ahead of their time 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,515 #14 Posted August 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, horseyheaven said: Have had both. Never could find a Chevy 350 that didn’t burn oil. I’m talking with only 60,000 miles on it. After 25 miles round trip to work it was time for another quart. Went Ford and never looked back. I’ve had great service out of Fords and no oil usage. My fleet of vehicles went the other way. Now all Ford, except for a Pontiac TransAm. I never had a Chevy that burned oil......I guess you have to take care of them, worn rings due to lack of service will do it every time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,394 #15 Posted August 25, 2020 not sure about the later versions that were dumbed down with pollution controls etc and the current versions - but the vintage Chevy small block was about as good as it gets/got as far as performance, durability, and reliability goes vintage Chevy small block would be the closest thing / engine to a Kohler powered Wheel Horse 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,130 #16 Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Every devoted Ford guy I know does nothing but whine about all the problems they have and how their maintenance and service dept suck. Then they go get a another one because they're so great. Edited August 25, 2020 by AMC RULES More PC :) 1 1 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,285 #17 Posted August 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, tom2p said: vintage Chevy small block would be the closest thing / engine to a Kohler powered Wheel Horse I'd agree with that and also add a few inline 6 engines. Dodge 225, Chevy 250, 292, & a Ford 300. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,394 #18 Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Terry M said: The older GM trucks with the 350 engines I’ve seen go 300K or better if you do the maintenance and don’t abuse them....the newer stuff I’m not so sure. Over the last couple decades I’ve had a Chevy,GMC and 5 fords. I hate to say it but my next truck could be a Toyota Tundra...we’ll see. I'm not familiar with the GM 4.8 engine - but just this past weekend spoke to a guy with two heavy duty GM vans with 4.8 engine these vans get heavy use - filled top to bottom with heavy material the one van has around 400K miles - still has original engine and trans the other van has around 300K miles - still has original engine and trans has been replaced twice I'm impressed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,394 #19 Posted August 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I'd agree with that and also add a few inline 6 engines. Dodge 225, Chevy 250, 292, & a Ford 300. I would add those also - especially since I had a truck with the 292 (torque monster lol) - but performance was not their strong point as was with the Chevy small block It was relatively easy to build / run a mildly warmed over small block with a large number of big blocks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,515 #20 Posted August 25, 2020 250......292......283........327.......350......396......409......427.....454.....any others I missed? Oh Wait the new Gen...502. Most winningest car in NASCAR HISTORY, THE SS MONTE CARLO. Before the fake Nascar, with all of the fake stops, implied cautions, oh wait....chicken bone on the track...We have to make this an even playing field 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #21 Posted August 25, 2020 I remember the old guy that had the Wheel Horse Dealership a couple miles up the road. I would go in for a part or blades or something, and he would say, "why don't you just bring that old machine up here and take one of those new ones home? You know that keeps the economy going!" I would just laugh and say maybe someday. My brother had a high end detailing business. He and I had a discussion a few weeks ago about what makes a used car good. He always used the term adult driven as being a factor. I agree, but the both of us came to a conclusion that the first few years of a vehicles use has the biggest effect on it's life. If not maintained, drove hard and put away wet, that really has an effect on a vehicle, no matter the brand. The same with buying these old tractors. I got a 312-8 off of a old guy that he bought new. 2600 hours on the meter. He had two acres and his wife loved to cut grass. He cleaned and serviced it. It needed some deck work and a solenoid. When I started it, it sounded as good as some 500 hour machines. Adult driven. (and serviced) = long life. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horseyheaven 112 #22 Posted August 26, 2020 Ford 289, 300-6, and 302 are as bullet proof of any engine I’ve ever seen. Johnnymag, I bought the truck from my grandfather who bought it new. Oil changed every 3,000 miles. Always liked oil. Replaced with a 1979 Ford 400. Still have the truck and motor has never been apart at 280,000 miles. Truck is all stock and will outpull any stock 350 Chevy of that era. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,285 #23 Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, johnnymag3 said: others I missed 307 and the ever muscular 305. Actually a 307 was a GREAT little powerhouse if "woken up" a little. I'm thinking it was a 283 bore and 327 stroke? I had a customer many moons ago who put a big nasty cam in one and let it breathe better with a 4 BBL and exhaust. Mean little bugger. 8 minutes ago, horseyheaven said: 300-6 My favorite engine. Closely followed by a gm 292. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #24 Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, tom2p said: I'm not familiar with the GM 4.8 engine - but just this past weekend spoke to a guy with two heavy duty GM vans with 4.8 engine these vans get heavy use - filled top to bottom with heavy material the one van has around 400K miles - still has original engine and trans the other van has around 300K miles - still has original engine and trans has been replaced twice I'm impressed I had a 2000 1500 4.8 (LS) nary a problem with the engine backed by a NV3500 5spd manual sold it with 250k miles to a youngster that just had to have a stick and 50k miles later sold and still running with that 4.8 basically untouched. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #25 Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, johnnymag3 said: 250......292......283........327.......350......396......409......427.....454.....any others I missed? Oh Wait the new Gen...502. Most winningest car in NASCAR HISTORY, THE SS MONTE CARLO. Before the fake Nascar, with all of the fake stops, implied cautions, oh wait....chicken bone on the track...We have to make this an even playing field My little G body. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites