704 Hood Repair

[DBlackston 298]

I have a 704 hood with a few cracks and old welds. It is the worst around the mounting surfaces.

 

How do you guys recommend fixing these areas?

 

This is my first bodywork adventure. 

 

 

[stevasaurus 22,913]

You probably already know this.  1st thing is to get all that Bondo gone and get down to bare metal.  

[squonk 41,647]

By the time you get all that bondo off there is going to be nothing left. I would try to find another hood.

[DBlackston 298]

704 has the round back as you know. What other models had this?

[wallfish 17,112]

654 604 and a bunch of Lawn Rangers used that hood.

Grind all that stuff off.

Cracks tend to keep going even after repairs if you don't drill a hole right at the end of them. The round circle of the hole gives it nowhere to go. Do most of the repair work from the inside of the hood, ie: welding.

For the upper mounting holes, you can weld a washer on the inside to re-establish a nice round and secure hole.

[RandyLittrell 3,885]

3 hours ago, wallfish said:

654 604 and a bunch of Lawn Rangers used that hood.

Grind all that stuff off.

Cracks tend to keep going even after repairs if you don't drill a hole right at the end of them. The round circle of the hole gives it nowhere to go. Do most of the repair work from the inside of the hood, ie: welding.

For the upper mounting holes, you can weld a washer on the inside to re-establish a nice round and secure hole.

 

Totally off topic, but I used to do glass work for a bodyshop that repaired so many bullet holes, he had someone make him some washers with no holes so you could just hold it behind and weld it up. A little skim coat of mud and paint it!! 

 

 

 

Randy

[wallfish 17,112]

19 hours ago, RandyLittrell said:

 

Totally off topic, but I used to do glass work for a bodyshop that repaired so many bullet holes, he had someone make him some washers with no holes so you could just hold it behind and weld it up. A little skim coat of mud and paint it!! 

 

 

 

Randy

Probably copper washers. The weld wont stick to it.

What's with "so many bullet holes" ? Gang wars going on down there? LoL

[RandyLittrell 3,885]

1 hour ago, wallfish said:

Probably copper washers. The weld wont stick to it.

What's with "so many bullet holes" ? Gang wars going on down there? LoL

 

No, they were metal and you really can't fill holes with the thin sheetmetal anymore. They would just grind the paint off, weld the washer on, then a skim coat of body filler and off to the paint shop. 

 

I am a body man as well and you would be surprised how many cars get in the middle of rollings gun battles. 

 

It was a shop in the hood of Kansas City, hell they had a full time guy that just rebuilt steering columns from cars getting stolen. 

 

 

 

 

Randy

[JPWH 6,147]

This is how I repaired an 854 hood. Hope this helps.

Jay

 

[tom2p 2,394]

On 7/19/2020 at 1:27 PM, squonk said:

By the time you get all that bondo off there is going to be nothing left. I would try to find another hood.

^
this 

 

[Pullstart 63,203]

If you decide to take on the repair correctly, patients will be your friend!  I spent hours welding a few belt guards together to make one, in the tune of days!  Tack weld, move an inch, tack weld, move an inch, etc...  PEEN your welds flatter, then grind them off, then repeat.   @19richie66 will tell you he didn’t teach me anything, but he turned me on to that process.  In the end, I turned out with a flat belt guard that required little to no skim coat, then Mrs. P requested it to be cleared and not painted.

 

 

[oilwell1415 563]

On 7/19/2020 at 12:27 PM, squonk said:

By the time you get all that bondo off there is going to be nothing left. I would try to find another hood.

Maybe up north, but down here in the south you could spend months looking for one and not come up with anything better than what you've got.

[WHNJ701 4,165]

22 minutes ago, oilwell1415 said:

Maybe up north, but down here in the south you could spend months looking for one and not come up with anything better than what you've got.

shipping a hood is no big deal, I sold a few over years about 40 bucks

[oilwell1415 563]

1 hour ago, jabelman said:

shipping a hood is no big deal, I sold a few over years about 40 bucks

The quotes I got to ship one from NY to here a few months ago were both over $100.  Even if the shipping is worth it, you still have to find the hood.  That's the real challenge.  It's a lot easier to find things when you live in an area where those things are.  The internet has made things a lot easier, but if I need something I can get locally I generally know where to look or find someone to point me in the right direction.

[AMC RULES 37,141]

Have you tried yet...

a 704 hood "wanted"

in the RedSquare classifieds?

[Pullstart 63,203]

@DBlackston if you do replace that, you might to try to digitize that dealer sticker for @Vinylguy!

[tom2p 2,394]

years ago - pre-internet / pre-social media days - finding parts like a 704 hood could be a challenge if not impossible 

 

much different now 

 

and the big show was a real eye opener (literally) - lots and lots of tractors and parts (and even more great enthusiasts and families)

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by tom2p

[19richie66 17,531]

That hood could be fixed no problem 

[DBlackston 298]

6 hours ago, AMC RULES said:

Have you tried yet...

a 704 hood "wanted"

in the RedSquare classifieds?

 

Yes I have an add out there currently.

 

9 hours ago, pullstart said:

If you decide to take on the repair correctly, patients will be your friend!  I spent hours welding a few belt guards together to make one, in the tune of days!  Tack weld, move an inch, tack weld, move an inch, etc...  PEEN your welds flatter, then grind them off, then repeat.   @19richie66 will tell you he didn’t teach me anything, but he turned me on to that process.  In the end, I turned out with a flat belt guard that required little to no skim coat, then Mrs. P requested it to be cleared and not painted.

 

 

 

I bought a hammer and dolly set. Im going to give it a try for sure!

 

8 hours ago, oilwell1415 said:

Maybe up north, but down here in the south you could spend months looking for one and not come up with anything better than what you've got.

 

I also am down south (KS). Alot harder to come by. 

 

2 hours ago, tom2p said:

years ago - pre-internet / pre-social media days - finding parts like a 704 hood could be a challenge if not impossible 

 

much different now 

 

and the big show was a real eye opener (literally) - lots and lots of tractors and parts (and even more great enthusiasts and families)

 

 

 I would love to make it to the big show. Gonna have to save alot of money before then because I am sure I will be shelling it out!

 

5 hours ago, pullstart said:

@DBlackston if you do replace that, you might to try to digitize that dealer sticker for @Vinylguy!

 

There is an even nicer example on the tool box. I don't like the one on the hood but I sure want to replace the one on the toolbox.