Foot pedal control on D series?

[Stike 204]

I was wondering if anyone here has put a hydro foot control on a D series tractor and if so how they did it? I have a 1974 D160 that I would like to put a foot control on to free up a hand when using the 3 point and hopefully loader in the future. It seems doable but haven't found anything about it being done. If anyone has any ideas or better yet pictures I would greatly appreciate some input.

[Ed Kennell 39,193]

I put foot controls on all my 300, 400, and 500 series hydros.   Never did a D though.

[pfrederi 17,990]

D series linkages are wonky enough.. If you figure it out you will be really popular

 

learn how to steer with your knees.

Edited June 9, 2020 by pfrederi

[pacer 3,174]

Many many times I have paused and perused and scratched my head looking at that 'D' set up and ------------ nothing! I just cant figure a way to do it, at least not with out a bit of butchering and even then .....???

 

I have a Massey Ferguson 1655 which is quite close in size and features of the D's, and it has a foot control, it is really nice!

["D"- Man 827]

I bought a used D-200 with a foot pedal control.  

[Stike 204]

I've been thinking about it for a while and haven't come up with a good solution with the odd linkage setup, "D" - Man that's interesting, did they hook it directly to the motion control lever, and did it work ok or was it to awkward to use?

[pacer 3,174]

Yeah, dont leave us with that one tantalizing picture!! How does it connect to the other end? With the battery cable hanging I assume you arent using it - have you driven it? And .............??? Whats shown looks very interesting.

[Ed Kennell 39,193]

I am not familiar with the D motion control lever location.      This is the foot control I add to all my hydros.  I have it on C, 300, 400, and 520s.   The 520 has to be a '88 or '89 before they moved the lever to the steering column.        I have it on Sundstrands and Eatons.    The existing motion lever must move front to rear and be on the console where a rod can be attached.

I don't know if it would work on a D, but may give you some ideas.

 

This is on an '86 312H.

 

 

[pacer 3,174]

Yes, I have done 2-3 C's with a similar method. Its relatively simple on those tractors and is certainly worth the effort.

 

But, as already mentioned the D's are a whole nother thing, the existing set-up can be quite frustrating if/when it gets out of whack, and making up a foot control ..... well, it just aint simple like a C series..

[Stike 204]

I agree, I'm planning on putting a similar setup on my C195 and C175 but the D is a completely different setup that may require eliminating the hand control or working off the linkage point where it connects to the pump. I don't really see a problem getting rid of the hand control altogether as the brake engagement is at the pump and not the hand control so braking wouldn't be affected.

["D"- Man 827]

2 hours ago, pacer said:

Yeah, dont leave us with that one tantalizing picture!! How does it connect to the other end? With the battery cable hanging I assume you arent using it - have you driven it? And .............??? Whats shown looks very interesting.

Thanks Pacer, yes I have driven it. There is a portion of the assembly control housing that had been cut away the foot pedal to linkage rod goes through the cut out area.  The rod has ball joint like fittings on each end.an extra hole was drilled through the pivot assembly to accommodate one of the threaded ends of the ball joint, the other ball joint connects to the flat part of the foot pedals vertical portion.  The rod has been cut and shut in a side-by-side welded sort of a get up.  It's fixed so when the motion control lever is moved by hand the foot pedal moves, and versa-vicey. The sun has already started to set or I would take pics, maybe tommorow.

 

P.S. I am not going to mention that this tractor also has an electric clutch bolted to the Kohler...   ...twin.

[WildmanC120 613]

15 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

I am not familiar with the D motion control lever location.      This is the foot control I add to all my hydros.  I have it on C, 300, 400, and 520s.   The 520 has to be a '88 or '89 before they moved the lever to the steering column.        I have it on Sundstrands and Eatons.    The existing motion lever must move front to rear and be on the console where a rod can be attached.

I don't know if it would work on a D, but may give you some ideas.

 

This is on an '86 312H.

 

 

 

Can you give us some more info on this?  I am interested in doing this on one or more of my tractors. 

[Pullstart 63,201]

12 hours ago, "D"- Man said:

 

 

P.S. I am not going to mention that this tractor also has an electric clutch bolted to the Kohler...   ...twin.

 

I’m for one, glad you won’t mention that.  It’ll likely keep me from searching harder for a big D or three to add to the herd...

[Ed Kennell 39,193]

22 minutes ago, WildmanC120 said:

 

Can you give us some more info on this?  I am interested in doing this on one or more of my tractors. 

 

A few cautions....this design is not safe for small children or untrained operators.

It is a spring loaded one pedal system that is pushed down to go forward and allowed to raise up to reverse.

The left brake pedal is functional and will stop the tractor immediately as it still moves the motion control lever to neutral and applies the brake.

It is imperative to lock the parking brake before dismounting the tractor as this action locks the motion lever in neutral...this should always be done on any tractor.

If you attempt to start the tractor with out the brake applied, the tractor will move in reverse.

  Also if you dismount or fall off the running tractor with out  setting the brake, it will move in reverse.

With a little practice, this system gives complete smooth control of full forward to full reverse motion with the pushing and raising of the right foot.

It is invaluable when working a snow plow or blower especially in tight areas and small driveways.

 

Parts and mods required;

Add a right pedal. I usually use a left brake pedal from a parts tractor.   You may have to notch the right floor board to clear the pedal.

The existing motion lever may have to be bent to position it in a direct line with the new control pedal.

An adapter to connect the rod to the motion  lever.

  The one shown on the 312 is a 3/8" pipe nipple that is notched to slide down over the bend in the control lever.  The lock d in place with a pipe cap that is drilled for the connecting rod.

  This pipe nipple is also used on the 520s.

On the 417s, I use a flat plate U bolted to the control lever.

The slot in the console cover plate is altered to a straight  line slot.   This can be seen in the picture.

The spring under this plate that pulls the lever to the left is moved to pull the lever to the rear.     An addition spring may be necessary to get the proper pull to raise the new control pedal.

On the 520, I also use a pneumatic cylinder to pull the pedal up.

 

 

 

 

 

[DarrellF 33]

https://m.facebook.com/groups/263966625951?view=permalink&id=10156835528540952&fs=0&focus_composer=0

 

Check this out

["D"- Man 827]

Pics.

 

[Pullstart 63,201]

Well that is what you call clearancing a hole!

[Ed Kennell 39,193]

3 minutes ago, pullstart said:

Well that is what you call clearancing a hole!

Probably used my torch.

[pacer 3,174]

Now this pic explains a LOT !!! Thanks, you know the old adage - a picture is worth...........

 

If I can get my mind off the beautiful workmanship, I see what he did and it actually looks like it has possibilities. I'm a standstill right at the moment - I dont have a project!!! I'll be going in the DT's if I dont find something to do and this just might give me a fix.....

 

["D"- Man 827]

I am attempting a vid of it working.

[Stike 204]

That looks like it works fine, thanks for the video, seems it's time to get to work making a similar setup of my own.

["D"- Man 827]

8 hours ago, Stike said:

That looks like it works fine, thanks for the video, seems it's time to get to work making a similar setup of my own.

Yea, when I first heard of someone wanting to accomplish this, it was before I seen or owned this tractor, but after looking at how simple of a get-up someone done, it's like that's much simpler than I thought it would have to be.