417-8 simple rewire

[chrisnjake9 0]

hello i am  new to the forum but i have looked at a few threads i am looking to by pass all electrical switches on my older 417-8 i tried running power to the coil no luck

[lynnmor 7,216]

 

There is a demystification guide in the manuals section that should help you.

 

Just throwing new wires at it won’t help if the basic troubleshooting isn’t done.

[WHX?? 47,854]

Wiring on a 400 series is somewhat complicated so a wiring diagram is a must. If not we can get you one or check the manuals section. Need a little more info here,  does it crank over? 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,876]

Working on this one now. What is not happening?

 

Garry

[chrisnjake9 0]

it was quit rotted out in the battery box so i i clipped some wires thinking i could put a switch in to jump power to the coil well that didnt work it dose not turn over un less i cross the solonoid but still no spark

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,876]

There are 2 pto switches and they are identical.

One powers the starter circuit and the other powers the ignition when the pto is OFF.

With the pto ON the seat switch powers the ignition.

 

Here are the wire locations in the switches.

 

Work on getting the key to make the starter work. When you get that see if you are getting voltage to the (+) coil terminal while cranking.

 

It is not complicated when you disregard the wires going to the idiot lights. They have no affect on the operation of the tractor. They are just a monitoring system.

 

Garry

 

[chrisnjake9 0]

those were rotted off flopping around in the box i cut them out

 

[chrisnjake9 0]

i got it started  and ran it for about 15 minutes now i have to rewire it minus all the safety switches . it appears it is not charging though i checked the wires coming from behind the fly wheel and none have power i pulled the fly wheel off and the magnets are all on the stator iv never seen that

[chrisnjake9 0]

it looks like the magnets should be attached to the flywheel their not they are on the stator any ideas

[BOB ELLISON 2,980]

Pictures will tell everything. 

Welcome to Redsquare 

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,876]

The complete file is finished.

Garry

[chrisnjake9 0]

thank you i need to glue my magnets back on my fly wheel and i need a new pto clutch

 

[oliver2-44 9,352]

Can some one chime in here regarding gluing the magnets back on.  am I thinking correctly that he needs to make sure he has the magnets arranged in North/South order, i.e. NS NS NS 

[953 nut 54,145]

8 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

Can some one chime in here regarding gluing the magnets back on.  am I thinking correctly that he needs to make sure he has the magnets arranged in North/South order, i.e. NS NS NS 

This thread should be helpful.

 

[chrisnjake9 0]

can any one tell me if a 16 hp fly wheel will fit my 417-8

[chrisnjake9 0]

so can i buy magnets for my fly wheel one is broke

[953 nut 54,145]

Call Lincoln at A-Z Tractor, he can probably fix you up.          https://a-ztractor.com/

 

[chrisnjake9 0]

thanks nut i will try him  tomorrow

[chrisnjake9 0]

cant i stack the magnets that will attract to each other in the u position there should be three each then glue them in alternating one from one stack then one from the other