The progress of a mistake

[formariz 11,987]

Someone made the comment to me once that it was amazing I never made mistakes in my work. That of course could not be any further from the truth, hence my answer that in reality I make so many that I became really good at not only finding them quickly but also quite adept at fixing them. As a example here is the latest one which is unfortunately a common occurrence when working alone and trying to balance an seven foot long door on drill press. Door just was not against fence and hinge hole was 3/16” off just about coming out back

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[stevasaurus 22,710]

That is the kind of mistake where no one sees it...but you know it's there.    

[CCW 1,292]

Very nice fix.

[CCW 1,292]

This is one of those items where if fixed no one knows, but if not everyone knows.

 

[formariz 11,987]

1 hour ago, stevasaurus said:

That is the kind of mistake where no one sees it...but you know it's there.    

You would be surprised what people find and where. Just every time I said that it has bitten me in the behind.

[rjg854 11,350]

Something my father always stressed to me ....

 

The mark of a professional,  is being able to fix your own mistakes. 

 

Great job 

Edited May 2, 2020 by rjg854
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[Pullstart 62,796]

I make it a habit to point out my mistakes to my girls.  It shows them that it’s ok to get on with it, take care of the problem and move on with the day.  It’s ok to try and fail, it’s not ok to never try in the first place for the fear of failure.  
 

Thanks for sharing with us, and how you fixed it!  I recently posted a video to YouTube where my idea did not work, in fact might have hurt my progress.  I was ok with the failure because I learned from my mistake and moved on.

[formariz 11,987]

1 hour ago, CCW said:

This is one of those items where if fixed no one knows, but if not everyone knows.

 

And then they really start looking for more.

[oliver2-44 9,691]

5 hours ago, formariz said:

 quite adept at fixing them. 

 

That's the sign of a true craftsman.

 

When I was in High school I worked part time for a flooring company owned by an old German "Character".  He preached aout learning how to fix your mistakes.    

[Mickwhitt 4,592]

I learn by making mistakes, seeing what I did wrong and coming up with a solution. 

Not many of my projects go without a hitch that needs addressing. 

I seldom work from a set plan or scheme of work. I prefer to do a bit of thinking, a little sketch and a lot of figuring as I go.

Not perhaps the most efficient way to do things but it works for me.

I don't remember where I first heard it but one of my favourite sayings is 

" the man who doesn't make mistakes, doesn't make anything"

Mick 

 

[Stormin 9,981]

That was one of the things my father would say when things went wrong, Mick.

[Tractorhead 9,064]

Ooooops, i make a mistake - is not a sentence of a goof, it can happen to everybody.

 

One of our Teachers in the past give us the advice, no matter what you do wrong, 
if you recognize it’s wrong solve it immediately and be creative to hide it.
Learning is allway‘s a curve and while you searching for solutions 
don‘t be just at your own, allway‘s have a look far over your own spoon.
In good craftsman training you be allway‘s trained firstly in fixing things, 
so you are later able to fix your own mistakes, if happens.
A professional craftsman has no hesitation to learn also years later from others.
Gentlemen, don’t forget the hole life is a learning curve.
The creativity to fix a mistake or a damage are as different as the damages are.
so there is no patent Reciept for a solution, you have to be creative to fic it and to hide them as good as possible.
- and never forget, you can each time learn from others if you like, if not you are hopeless.

 

 

Under the meaning of that Statement of my Teacher in the Past, 
Thanks for share us your creative Solution for that Fix.
 

[wh500special 2,160]

That’s a great fix.  I’ll have to remember that one for the next time I drop a hole in the wrong spot.  
 

I’ve noticed that hobbyist woodworkers - myself included - tend to go out of our way to point out our mistakes to others.   Most of the time, they would have never noticed them. 
 

Hopefully you professionals are better at keeping secrets!

 

Is that forstner a router bit you have chucked in the DP?   I’ve not tried that. 
 

Steve

[formariz 11,987]

19 hours ago, pullstart said:

I make it a habit to point out my mistakes to my girls.  It shows them that it’s ok to get on with it, take care of the problem and move on with the day.  It’s ok to try and fail, it’s not ok to never try in the first place for the fear of failure.  

Great attitude. Specially when dealing with children. I see so many children discouraged from being unsuccessful at something and even worse not trying again because a mistake was made fun of, or they were ridiculed by a parent or adult. We should always tell them that the mistakes are just another step in the learning process. It will build their self confidence and self esteem for the rest of their lives. I can honestly say that I have learned a lot from my mistakes, and I actually always look forwards to the challenge of fixing them when they happen.

 

13 hours ago, Mickwhitt said:

I seldom work from a set plan or scheme of work. I prefer to do a bit of thinking, a little sketch and a lot of figuring as I go.

Good point. I do pretty much the same. Although it starts with detailed drawings through out the process I am always improving it and using different ways of achieving the end result.

 

4 hours ago, wh500special said:

Is that forstner a router bit you have chucked in the DP?   I’ve not tried that. 

Its not a router bit. It is a dedicated bit made for production work  in drilling hinge cups on the 32mm system. They are carbide tipped.  Most times they are used on man made materials such as particle board or MDF. A regular bit like a Forstner would get dull really quick from that. That particular one has probably drilled a few thousand holes and still cuts quick and cleanly. They are also great at chip ejection. They are a real pleasure to use but not cheap running about $30.00 each depending on size and brand.

 

Edited May 2, 2020 by formariz

[Mickwhitt 4,592]

I have made a few doors with that kind of hinge and the bit you described is indispensable. 

Depth stop and a way of setting it to the right dimension from the door edge and you're away. Unless it's a 7 foot long door lol.

I wondered how you cut the crescent shaped filling piece.

Mick 

[wh500special 2,160]

Interesting.  I just hadn’t seen that variety of bit for drilling before.   I’ve seen some router bits for shelf pin and hinge holes and just assumed that’s what you had.  I like it. 
 

$30 apiece is nothin’ if you can get that many holes from them. 
 

I like the 32mm system.   And there are a lot of premade jigs for that layout, some of them quite intricate and slick.  Pretty handy. 
 

I’ve done a few projects using metric measurements and found it simpler to use when dividing things up like spacing between shelves for instance.   It’s a shame we’ve not gone further with metric tools here.  
 

steve

[formariz 11,987]

21 hours ago, Mickwhitt said:

I have made a few doors with that kind of hinge and the bit you described is indispensable. 

Depth stop and a way of setting it to the right dimension from the door edge and you're away. Unless it's a 7 foot long door lol.

I wondered how you cut the crescent shaped filling piece.

Mick 

I don’t bother with the depth stop. The black mark on it is where to stop.

 

Cut it on the bandsaw and just cleaned it up with a little sanding

 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2020 by formariz