Raider 10 save

[Stepney 2,332]

A long search finally comes to a close. I'm always asked why I've had 4 Chargers, 2 Electros, and a number of other older and newer hydro models.. most with hydro lift too.
But never a gear drive?
Well. Simple. After all the years, I've simply never come across a reasonably priced, and local, early 8 speed..

Until now.

Showed up on CL about half an hour away, I wrote on the first hour of being posted. 
Had been in this man's ownership for about 25 years, never ran even then.
Got it home, removed the 1979 dated Sears battery. Added a battery and it cranks and fires on the key.
Oh.. and the HH100 SSI ignition works perfectly.
In fact it'd be running right now if I could get the intake valve unsticked. It fires right off but dies just as quick. 
Even the carb was pretty clean. Doesn't leak. 
Original seat really seems nice. Very soft, just filthy.
The rear wheels were reversed for some reason. Have to switch them around.
With any luck she'll be running by morning. 

[ZXT 2,401]

Excellent find! Wonder if that '79 battery would charge up? 

[Ed Kennell 39,404]

Good to see , not everyone is afraid of the Teckys.

[Stepney 2,332]

1 minute ago, Ed Kennell said:

Good to see , not everyone is afraid of the Teckys.

 

Every WH I owned with one has been fantastic. I had a Charger 9 that ran better than most of my Kohlers. 
Should have kept that motor..

Had hit or miss luck with several old Sears Suburbans. My main issue has been getting an idle out of them. The passages in those carbs are hard to clean. 
And every Teccy with a bendix starter I have owned makes an awful screeching noise when starting. Seems a lot of other ones do too. Never could figure it out..
Quirky to be sure but good little engines. 
About the only engine I cant stand is a later model Wisconsin..

[roadapples 6,983]

Any fix for the SSI. I have one with no spark.

   By the way nice tractor....

[ZXT 2,401]

8 minutes ago, roadapples said:

Any fix for the SSI. I have one with no spark.

   By the way nice tractor....

I know some people have adapted a GM HEI ignition module. Not sure of the specifics, but google that and you'll probably find something.

 

[ebinmaine 69,186]

5 hours ago, roadapples said:

Any fix for the SSI. I have one with no spark.

   By the way nice tractor....

 

5 hours ago, ZXT said:

I know some people have adapted a GM HEI ignition module. Not sure of the specifics, but google that and you'll probably find something.

 

 

 

That was my thought as well.

 

 

 

 

Spenser..... AWESOME find!!!

 

 

[Pollack Pete 2,273]

Nice little Raider 10.I've got one floating around here some where that's on my work on it someday list. Previous owner must have been looking for  the " funny car " look when he reversed the rear wheels.Have fun with your new toy.

[Stepney 2,332]

Welp, gentlemen. She didn't last long..

Got the valve good and free. Hit the starter and first try she lit right off and was purring ....

Then it went CRACK and coasted to a stop.

At first I thought rod, but when cranking it would spit fire and gas vapor from the carb.. so the rod was still in there.
Pulled the plug and turned it over, no movement from the valves. Sounds like the cam gear rounded off for whatever reason..

Had a nice running HH100 I sold just a few months back. Wish I hadn't now.

Ah well, there's a good Kohler on the parts line for a donor engine. 

I've already pulled the Teccy off. Would not be against fixing it but I have a fleet of Kohler stuff so it'd just make it that much easier to keep running. I'll probably throw the 'important' parts up on the classifieds if anyone needs a good Teccy SSI or other parts.

She looks pretty sad in the back of the garage.

 

[Ed Kennell 39,404]

1 hour ago, Stepney said:

if anyone needs a good Teccy SSI or other parts

 

 

There ya go Jay.    @roadapples

[Stepney 2,332]

Well, one way or another, she's alive!
Had this old blue Kohler K301t industrial engine in the shed. I was there when it was removed from a pallet as a new engine, it was stuck on a 1967 Bolens and after about an hour the clutch failed. 
Kid left it to rot for a few years till I bought the whole rig for the motor.
Fit right onto the Raider, added a pulley and away we go.
No starter or charging system. Think I may wind up adding a bracket and pulley for a starter generator. But for now it's running on the mag and seems to run great.

 

[D_Mac 8,919]

I like the canoe. Is that a Mad River Larime ? If so I used to have the same one.

[Stepney 2,332]

14 minutes ago, D_Mac said:

I like the canoe. Is that a Mad River Larime ? If so I used to have the same one.

Would have to ask Dad on that one, it's his. I have an old wooden Old Town with a square stern. I'm not allowed to touch that one haha.
All I know is it's made of some special plastic or fiber material. Mad River sounds like the right name if I remember it right. 

[D_Mac 8,919]

Mine was older model. Made from kevlar. 17 ft canoe weighed about 75lbs. Was a great canoe.

[ZXT 2,401]

Assuming it doesn't have a ring gear, could you swap flywheels and add a stator rather than going to a S/G?

[pfrederi 18,061]

8 hours ago, ZXT said:

Assuming it doesn't have a ring gear, could you swap flywheels and add a stator rather than going to a S/G?

 

You might have to change out the engine bearing plate as there may be no provision to mount a stator.  Need to know the spec #

[tom2p 2,394]

On 4/26/2020 at 10:32 PM, Stepney said:

 

Every WH I owned with one has been fantastic. I had a Charger 9 that ran better than most of my Kohlers. 
Should have kept that motor..

Had hit or miss luck with several old Sears Suburbans. My main issue has been getting an idle out of them. The passages in those carbs are hard to clean. 
And every Teccy with a bendix starter I have owned makes an awful screeching noise when starting. Seems a lot of other ones do too. Never could figure it out..
Quirky to be sure but good little engines. 
About the only engine I cant stand is a later model Wisconsin..

not afraid of tecumseh - but I avoid them 

 

two neighbors had late 60's Wheel Horse tractors with tecumseh engines ; purchased new and maintained well

 

years later we brought home a used 704 Wheel Horse with a Kohler that was sitting outside under a tarp 

 

both tecumseh powered tractors had issues and used oil fairly quickly and one eventually died ... can't recall what happened to the other 

 

never had one problem with our  704 - used it until late 90's and still has the original Kohler engine ... never touched the engine - never even looked at the points and changed plug maybe once every two years (?) ... it did begin to use oil however ... (don't you hate that after 25 years lol ) 

 

even when the pull start began to act up and pawls would barely engage - the Kohler would start almost immediately 

attached pics to show I'm not comparing apples to oranges -

 

our yard was larger and good portion hilly  ; their yards smaller and less hilly 

our yard (yellow brick house) - followed by their yards 

 

 

 

 

 

side by side
 

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by tom2p

[Pullstart 63,269]

8 hours ago, ZXT said:

Assuming it doesn't have a ring gear, could you swap flywheels and add a stator rather than going to a S/G?

 

40 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

 

You might have to change out the engine bearing plate as there may be no provision to mount a stator.  Need to know the spec #

I had to swap the bearing plates recently on two small block Kohlers to go from an S/G setup to stator/gear starter.  It wasn’t a terrible job.

[Stepney 2,332]

Did her first bit of actual work in a few decades today. Still soaking the shroud trying to get the horrible mouse stench out of it. Can't run it too long.. but at a nice sloe lope it had an easy job of dragging 325lbs of dead weight around like nothing was there. 

[Sam Pasch 449]

I can't stand to look at those rear wheels anymore! MUST BE REVERSED!!! please

[Stepney 2,332]

15 minutes ago, Sam Pasch said:

I can't stand to look at those rear wheels anymore! MUST BE REVERSED!!! please

It does look pretty goofy. Sitting in the shed the last few days I noticed a small puddle. Seems the flywheel side rim is rusting out and loaded with calcium chloride. 
One of these afternoons it'll likely collapse. Pretty thin after I looked at it closer. 

[AHS 1,476]

6 hours ago, Stepney said:

It does look pretty goofy. Sitting in the shed the last few days I noticed a small puddle. Seems the flywheel side rim is rusting out and loaded with calcium chloride. 
One of these afternoons it'll likely collapse. Pretty thin after I looked at it closer. 

Ya, it does look skinny in the back!!

[ebinmaine 69,186]

7 hours ago, Stepney said:

It does look pretty goofy. Sitting in the shed the last few days I noticed a small puddle. Seems the flywheel side rim is rusting out and loaded with calcium chloride. 
One of these afternoons it'll likely collapse. Pretty thin after I looked at it closer. 

I've got at least 2 extra sets of nice rims if you need...

 

[ebinmaine 69,186]

8 hours ago, Stepney said:

Did her first bit of actual work in a few decades today. Still soaking the shroud trying to get the horrible mouse stench out of it. Can't run it too long.. but at a nice sloe lope it had an easy job of dragging 325lbs of dead weight around like nothing was there. 

Interesting drag weight.

I'll be looking forward to seeing THAT here!!!

 

 

[Ed Kennell 39,404]

11 hours ago, Stepney said:

 

 

Be careful.....don't let those loose wires and belts drag you into the flywheel.