gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,032 #26 Posted April 26, 2020 From the parts manual Attachment lift and rear lift cable Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeacemakerJack 10,738 #27 Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Hoythunter25 said: would love to know what that hitch was built to pull. Looks like a plintel hitch in reverse. It won’t take much to remove all that have what you need to operate ground engaging rear implements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,394 #28 Posted April 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, PeacemakerJack said: would love to know what that hitch was built to pull. Looks like a plintel hitch in reverse. It won’t take much to remove all that have what you need to operate ground engaging rear implements. can another hitch be installed ? ( I believe so ?) maybe get another and save that one in current condition ... that hitch is cool 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoythunter25 46 #29 Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, PeacemakerJack said: would love to know what that hitch was built to pull. Looks like a plintel hitch in reverse. It won’t take much to remove all that have what you need to operate ground engaging rear implements. Probably could tell a story or two. I am missing the bars/cables needed to operate the front and rear implements. Edited April 26, 2020 by Hoythunter25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoythunter25 46 #30 Posted April 26, 2020 Is there any spec charts that include what spark plug? Plug gap? Oil type? Air filter? Etc... Also, I was going to replace the fuel line but I am wondering if this is a factory formed line? I can't tell if it is or if it is just old and kind of froze in the position it has been in for the last 50 years. Has anyone replaced with regular fuel line that you can purchased at the hardware store? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,784 #31 Posted April 26, 2020 1/4” low pressure fuel line is just fine. I keep a 50’ coil of it. Well, I did. Just ran out last week! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,784 #32 Posted April 26, 2020 Here’s some more proof that a round hood can pull plow. Putt Putt has an 8 hp Kohler and 8 speed transmission. One way or another, he’ll get a limited slip diff ‘fore too long as well. the last pic is Jim, he’s over in WI. Hosts a mean plow day where we turned about 17 acres last fall. I had him take a parade lap on Putt Putt while we were out there. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #33 Posted April 27, 2020 8 hours ago, tom2p said: We have a 704 - our first Wheel Horse acquired it around 1974 - used it on a regular basis until the late 90's - still have it (stuffed in garage) implements (for sale) for this tractor including mower deck and plow at one point were almost impossible to find ... pre-internet / pre Wheel Horse club days ... but after years of searching I found another mower deck had a number of great muscle cars and motorcycles - all eventually sold as I moved along through the different phases of life - but the 704 remains ! Couple bikes too. I like bikes. I only have like 11.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,394 #34 Posted April 27, 2020 those bikes followed me ! can barely see a plow frame to the right - buried behind bikes ... will need to do some shuffling so I can use the plow ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoythunter25 46 #35 Posted April 27, 2020 I went and got some essential supplies for trying to get her started. I also started trying to put back together the original starter. Hopefully I can get the jack in the box back together lol 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,032 #36 Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 2:23 PM, Hoythunter25 said: Is there any spec charts that include what spark plug? Plug gap? Oil type? Air filter? Etc... Here is what we have for the 704. 26 results on 2 pages and they are in no particular order so look through them all. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?&q=704&type=downloads_file&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeek 2,286 #37 Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 8:12 PM, Hoythunter25 said: Hi Guys, I just picked up my first wheel horse today for a lockdown project. I don't know a whole lot about these tractors. I am hoping this is a good source to learn. Is there a good source for parts that anyone can share? I was told this is a 1967 704, is there a serial number chart to verify? It has a 7hp k161 kohler motor. What do you guys think about the purchase? That tractor is in excellent condition for the year! Those round-hoods with the large rear tires are probably one of my favorite! Fight the urge to spray-bomb that unless you are going to do a full on resto. That thing would clean up NICE as an original. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,394 #38 Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Hoythunter25 said: I went and got some essential supplies for trying to get her started. I also started trying to put back together the original starter. Hopefully I can get the jack in the box back together lol probably over 20 years since I had one of those pull start assemblies apart the housing was loose on the engine - and pawls on the pull start would barely engage unless pulled quickly so I rarely got a good quality pull - but with the Kohler it barely mattered - barely needed a 1/4 pull and it would start ( and I rarely changed the plug and never touched the points ) when reassembling clean the threads of the small retaining bolt and apply loctite before tightening *** - the pawls should then engage better ( *** I believe 50 - 75 inch pounds ? ) Edited April 28, 2020 by tom2p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoythunter25 46 #39 Posted May 4, 2020 What should I order to start with and replace to try to get her going? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #40 Posted May 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Hoythunter25 said: What should I order to start with and replace to try to get her going? What parts do you have already? General maintenance and tune stuff of course. Transmission shifter boot and oil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,784 #41 Posted May 4, 2020 Have you gotten the recoil functional? What kind of shape is the carb in and do you have spark? If the carb is removed and cleaned, all passageways cleaned out to pull fuel from the bowl to the venturi, then I’d feed it fuel from an exterior source unless the fuel line has been replaced. Checking for spark is easy. Pull the plug and ground it to the head while pulling the engine over. Key on of course... if no spark, take a look at the points on the cover near the right front corner of the frame. They are spring loaded and have two pucks that contact each other. If you have a skinny file you can place the file between them and clean them up a bit. Use a dollar bill folded in half to clean the points when you’re done. SAND PAPER will do more long term damage than good by leaving scratches for contaminates to hold on to and burn the points again. If you have feeler gauges, they should open .018” to .020” when you slowly roll the engine over. After checking those settings, check for spark again. With a clean carb and good spark, it should be ready to fire up! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoythunter25 46 #42 Posted May 6, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 4:31 AM, ebinmaine said: What parts do you have already? General maintenance and tune stuff of course. Transmission shifter boot and oil. I have a Kohler carb kit, new spark plug, new fuel line, and new recoil rope. I will hopefully habe everything cleaned up and installed today. Does this engine have points? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #43 Posted May 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, Hoythunter25 said: I have a Kohler carb kit, new spark plug, new fuel line, and new recoil rope. I will hopefully habe everything cleaned up and installed today. Does this engine have points? Does have points. Yes. Just clean the ones you have. Points file is best. Sandpaper can leave behind residual stuff. You'll be headed the right direction there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoythunter25 46 #44 Posted May 10, 2020 Guys I am having some trouble getting this recoil/starter to work properly. I put it back together last night and pretty sure I have it all correct but it doesn't seem to engage very good at all and when it does it seems like the little dogs are slipping on the inside teeth of the cog on the engine. Any help or thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoythunter25 46 #45 Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Do these go bad often? Edited May 11, 2020 by Hoythunter25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoythunter25 46 #46 Posted May 11, 2020 I don't seem to be getting spark....check out this video, do these points seem correct? I also found this bad spot in the wire that goes to the ignition toggle switch. Any thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam Pasch 449 #47 Posted May 11, 2020 9 hours ago, Hoythunter25 said: I don't seem to be getting spark....check out this video, do these points seem correct? I also found this bad spot in the wire that goes to the ignition toggle switch. Any thoughts? There is a possibility that the condenser is bad. Also if the ignition switch isn't working it could cause it to not have spark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,784 #48 Posted May 12, 2020 Do you have a multi meter? Roll it over by hand and have the key on. Check for continuity between the screw on the points wire and ground. wait a minute.. what is rolling the engine over? I thought this was a recoil machine? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
