Amateur Hour... Cabinetry 101?

[Pullstart 62,784]

@formariz @The Tool Crib @PeacemakerJack I may be leaning on some of you, who are more experienced with wood than myself!  I’m building a wet bar adjacent to the new bathroom, so I can use water lines and drains from that area.  There is a fridge in the center, two square cabinets and there will be two 45 degree cabinets on the end.  Above, two 9” wide cabs hanging down touching the ceiling.  As with the bathroom wall, the backdrop will be my custom milled shiplap pine, but we will burn this with a torch and clear coat it.  

 

I found a bunch of cabinets at auction auction and bought what I needed piece by piece.  I ended up in a bit of a bidding war with the 9” cabinets as there were three and it was obvious the other buyer wanted 2.  I ended up with 3, just to make him go away and one of us not get stuck with 1 lonely cabinet.

 

the 33” cabinets have been disassembled and now I’ve begun modifications to the pieces.  I hope to use the two sides as the back panels of the 45 and have trimmed the faces already by setting up a wooden fence on the old table saw for a flush 45 cut.

 

now, I took an old broken flat head screwdriver and ground it to a chisel point for scraping glue.

 

Next plans are to attempt to reverse engineer the bottom plate and figure out assembly with hidden fasteners.  I have a Kreg Jig and clamps but not too many more specialty wood hand tools.

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

 

I’m in.  Looks like a fun project for sure👍🏻

[SylvanLakeWH 25,490]

 

You going to incorporate any WH sheet metal into this project? 

 

Tractor seats for the stools

An old WH hood for the light shade

Couple of foot boards for a cutting board...

 

Assume Regal Red for final color choice?

 

Ahhh - the possibilities are endless...

 

[Pullstart 62,784]

1 minute ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

 

You going to incorporate any WH sheet metal into this project? 

 

Tractor seats for the stools

An old WH hood for the light shade

Couple of foot boards for a cutting board...

 

Assume Regal Red for final color choice?

 

Ahhh - the possibilities are endless...

 

 

If only this were in the shop...  don’t forget that Kohler shroud clock!

[formariz 11,987]

Glad to help with any difficulties you may have. For the bottoms ( if I understand you correctly) there is a better way. I don’t build base cabinets like that. I use a separate platform that I set first attaching it to floor and or wall. Then I set the “box “ on it screwing it to platform.

if the cabinet side is exposed fit bottom inside rather than underneath sides and you can use the pocket holes to fasten it to sides.

 

 

[Pullstart 62,784]

Thanks Caz!  With the design of the existing cabinets, would it be wise for me to stick with this design or build boxes?

[formariz 11,987]

14 minutes ago, pullstart said:

Thanks Caz!  With the design of the existing cabinets, would it be wise for me to stick with this design or build boxes?

Looks like you are using the existing material and adapting it to your situation. You have the face frames already assembled. I would build a box from the parts you have. Its essentially the same as they have, only the bottom is done differently.  Or you can just cut and fit the bottom into the existing dados. If you run into having to build a box with new material you will find it easier with the separate platform. Its a lot easier and precise to level a platform than a whole row of cabinets. The end product is also better supported than relying on the two ends of each cabinet. When building them with odd or complicated angles you will find also that it is easier to build platform first and sort of use that as a "template" for the cabinets. Just ideas to put in your head that may not apply now but will give you ideas later on on other work.

Edited April 15, 2020 by formariz

[Pullstart 62,784]

5 minutes ago, formariz said:

Looks like you are using the existing material and adapting it to your situation. You have the face frames already assembled. I would build a box from the parts you have. Its essentially the same as they have, only the bottom is done differently.  Or you can just cut and fit the bottom into the existing dados. If you run into having to build a box with new material you will find it easier with the separate platform. Its a lot easier and precise to level a platform than a whole row of cabinets. The end product is also better supported than relying on the two ends of each cabinet. When building them with odd or complicated angles you will find also that it is easier to build platform first and sort of use that as a "template" for the cabinets. Just ideas to put in your head that may not apply now but will give you ideas later on on other work.

 

I appreciate any and all constructive criticism, even if it is for future plans!  

[elcamino/wheelhorse 9,295]

@pullstart Buy a good chisel , you have beat on the screw driver enough.

[953 nut 55,065]

9 hours ago, pullstart said:

 I have a Kreg Jig and clamps but not too many more specialty wood hand tools

                   Pocket screws and particle board just don't work out well. If you are going to use plywood they are fine.

[formariz 11,987]

1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

                   Pocket screws and particle board just don't work out well. If you are going to use plywood they are fine.

That is correct. There are however screws specialized better for that type of application such as a Spax screw. It has also to do with how a screw is driven. There is a bit of technique to that alone and it will absolutely not involve any type of impact driver which do not allow you to "feel"  how the screw is grabbing and most likely will make it strip the hole. I have also in the past pre drilled holes for pocket screws on very critical types of material. That is specially so when using thin material such as 1/2". It is critical that screw in that thin material penetrate immediately without blowing out the very first 1/8" of the material. That will only happen with pre drilling first.

Edited April 16, 2020 by formariz

[elcamino/wheelhorse 9,295]

@formariz Do you use a Kreg jig or did you make your own jig ?

[formariz 11,987]

7 minutes ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said:

@formariz Do you use a Kreg jig or did you make your own jig ?

I use a Kreg. If pre drilling is needed I do make a simple jig that individually fits into the hole and control the depth of the bit.