The Tuul Crib 7,338 #1 Posted March 30, 2020 Last night I was running around the yard with my 414 and all of a sudden it just locked up. hitting the break pedal was like stepping on a brick it didn't move Immediately I was thinking transmission but with further look see the belt it done some really weird things. There was no indication as to this would be happening but it did it messed up the idler control alarm. I was able to pull it off and straighten everything up but the belt didn't seem to make it. I know it calls for 7473 and I was wondering what everyone else is using from what brand or supplier? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 69,436 #2 Posted March 30, 2020 I like oe black belts from Toro or Wheelhorse. I've also had very good luck with the green belts from Gates. I've run a couple of blue belts from Stens and done fine with them as well. Several of us have used belts from Tractor supply and done fine but I don't share that experience. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #3 Posted March 30, 2020 I just replaced the starter generator to motor belt and drive belt on my 856 i have for sale. And I bought both at rural king. They sell Jason industrial belts. If I don't already have a stens belt in stock i use there belts. https://www.jasonindustrial.com/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 26,407 #4 Posted March 30, 2020 Stens True blue - no complaints... Tractor Supply - no complaints... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCM 9,872 #5 Posted March 30, 2020 Toro 7473 on the 1989 312-8 still original with 600 Hours, no complaints. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,103 #6 Posted March 30, 2020 I use WH 7473 for all my gear drives..but use Gates green ones for hydros deck and such. The WH bet seem to be a bit smoother on engagement ...but it may be all in my head... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stepney 2,335 #7 Posted March 30, 2020 My machines are all hydro these days, but for the few gear drives I owned WH belts made a clear difference. I try to save what inventory of NOS WH belts I have. Only using them on manual shift tractors. The implements and hydros dont seem to care. Tractor Supply blue belts have stood way more torture than they ought to on some of my machines. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,660 #8 Posted March 30, 2020 I've always had good luck with Tractor Supply belts, a decent price and local. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom2p 2,394 #9 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) original / OEM 'true' Wheel Horse molded / wrapped belts are the way to go when you can still get them - they perform better and are more durable ( I believe the 'true' original / OEM Wheel Horse belts are 'HA' or 'HB' designated or rated ... is that the dimensions (angle or pitch ?) Heavy Agriculture rated ? ) unfortunately many of the current OEM Wheel Horse belts are of lower quality - many are not molded / wrapped and not as durable original Wheel Horse 7473 molded / wrapped belts are still available the original 7473 belts often have the Wheel Horse logo and / or 7473 part number stamped into the outside of the belt (as opposed to print) - and the outside wrap is often a light color ... off white or tan some other belts also provide good service - including some Rotary, Stens (True Blue) and NAPA belts ... I currently have a True Blue PTO mower deck drive belt installed on one tractor - got this belt when I was unable to get a true high quality OEM Wheel Horse belt ... will need more time to determine how well it performs Edited March 31, 2020 by tom2p 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,794 #10 Posted March 30, 2020 I've used them all. Gates green (Napa) worked better on my 704 than an OEM belt. I use mostly TSC blue due to availability and cost. I just put a TSC on my deck as it was $15.00 cheaper than Napa. The key to belt life and performance is pulley condition and alignment. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digger 66 3,488 #11 Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, squonk said: Gates green (Napa) I've had them ( deck & drive ) on my Raider for what seems like forever . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 817 #12 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) i bought drive belts frpom my old WH dealer he says back in the day they had their own specs on their v belts always bought from him and never had no isssues but they a bit pricey i think cost was 30 to 40 bucks but he says the ones he has are same as originally used by WH i am going to hate to see him go he in his early 80's and still there working every day his son also with him but does not want the buesness once his dad quites hate to see what happens with all the WH stuff Edited March 30, 2020 by briankd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 63,358 #13 Posted March 30, 2020 Tractor Supply blue belts work great and I feel like I’ve used a few from my local Parts Plus with great results. Looking for a head gasket from Napa today, I’ve lost hope on them for anything small engine. I asked them for a K-181 head gasket. Their response was “do you have a part number?” I responded “don’t you have a catalog?” As to which she responded “unless it is a vehicle manufacturer or you have an OEM number, we can’t help you” I have to wait for Parts Plus to get one in at 8 am... but it’ll be correct at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,338 #14 Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, pullstart said: Tractor Supply blue belts work great and I feel like I’ve used a few from my local Parts Plus with great results. Looking for a head gasket from Napa today, I’ve lost hope on them for anything small engine. I asked them for a K-181 head gasket. Their response was “do you have a part number?” I responded “don’t you have a catalog?” As to which she responded “unless it is a vehicle manufacturer or you have an OEM number, we can’t help you” I have to wait for Parts Plus to get one in at 8 am... but it’ll be correct at least. I went to O'Reilly the other day and asked the guy for a spark plug for a K3 41 I told him it was a champion plug he asked me the same thing do you have a part number. He never heard of a K3 41! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 817 #15 Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, pullstart said: Tractor Supply blue belts work great and I feel like I’ve used a few from my local Parts Plus with great results. Looking for a head gasket from Napa today, I’ve lost hope on them for anything small engine. I asked them for a K-181 head gasket. Their response was “do you have a part number?” I responded “don’t you have a catalog?” As to which she responded “unless it is a vehicle manufacturer or you have an OEM number, we can’t help you” I have to wait for Parts Plus to get one in at 8 am... but it’ll be correct at least. napa is about usless around me also tried to get a kouler air filter from them cause my local mower shop wanted 25 bucks and napa has no clue what i was talkling about napa used to in the past stock small engine parts but went away from it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,794 #16 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) A lot of these parts places hire young cheap help. A lot of them have tossed their catalogs. They just want to push buttons and look at screens. I was at Lowe's Sat. I wanted a hole saw kit that was on a high shelf. The guy with the red vest didn't know what a hole saw was Edited March 30, 2020 by squonk 1 2 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,794 #17 Posted March 30, 2020 If anybody needs a Napa part #for anything PM me.I have Prolink and some catalogs and can look up most stuff 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,338 #18 Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, squonk said: A lot of these parts places hire young cheap help. A lot of them have tossed their catalogs. They just want to push buttons and look at screens. I was at Lowe's Sat. I wanted a hole saw lot that was on a high shelf. The guy with the red vest didn't know what a hole saw was Wow😳 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,874 #19 Posted March 30, 2020 Prefer Wheel Horse / Toro, I try to inventory a few belts and then when at the show resupply. I have used TSC belts and they work good too. (and a hair cheaper) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 39,599 #20 Posted March 30, 2020 TSC belts get my vote. Good price Local 5mile from me Long life Returnable 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,559 #21 Posted March 30, 2020 4 hours ago, bottjernat1 said: just replaced the starter generator to motor belt The S/G belt should be a raw rubber edge belt, here are a few options. 232613 Kohler belt nla Use 231605 232613 - Gates 7320 .41"x32.58" 36 degree or Napa 25-7320 .41"x32.58" 36 degree 231605 - Gates 7315 .41"x32.08" 36 degree or Napa 25-7315 .41"x32.08" 36 degree 1964 model 854 1965 model 855 1965 model 875 Starter/generator belt Kohler 10hp, 12hp - 235262 (7345 Gates .410" x 35.09" 36 degree) (25-7345 Napa .410" x 35.09" 36 degree) Wheel Horse 1593 (3L x 34.4") - nla (Gates replacement 6735 3/8" x 35" 38 degree) 1964 model 1045 1964 model 1054 - Not in PSB - Wheel Horse # 1593 nla {3Lx34.4"} - Gates 7340 .410"x34.58" 36 degree or Napa 25-7340 .410"x34.58" 36 degree 1965 model 1054A - Not in PSB - Kohler 235262 replaces 235528 [.41"x35.09" 36 degree] - Gates 7345 .41"x35.09" 36 degree or Napa 25-7345 .41"x35.09" 36 degree 1965 model 1055 1965 model 1075 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,338 #22 Posted March 30, 2020 Im debating wether or not to venture out right now so lm gonna go the way of on line purchase. Doesnt leave too many options at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZXT 2,401 #23 Posted March 30, 2020 I'm cheap, so I use cheap belts. One brand I have found on eBay and Amazon is D&D Powerdrive. I've put their belts on 6 machines (not all WH) and have some that are at least 4 years old now, and get mowed with nearly weekly during the summer. No failures yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 69,436 #24 Posted March 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, The Tool Crib said: Doesnt leave too many options at this point. Randy just poke around a bit more. There's nothing you can't find online. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,338 #25 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) Yeah I just might do that Eric I have another tractor do use anyway so I'm not too concerned. Not working right now so get plenty of time to look on the computer Edited March 30, 2020 by The Tool Crib 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
