Lane Ranger 10,945 #1 Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Attached you will find two sheets of TIPS on mounting Tires and Tubes on your tractors. These came from Morrow Tire in Slater, Missouri where I have bought tires for my Wheel Horse tractors over the years. Edited March 25, 2020 by Lane Ranger 7 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,765 #2 Posted March 25, 2020 Thanks Lane ...couple of things in there I did not know. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midpack 862 #3 Posted March 25, 2020 dish soap on the bead is a must! I always mix mine with water though I used to use baby powder in the tire and on the tube on my race bikes to prevent chafing at the lower pressures i was using depending on the terrain for the event 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oilwell1415 563 #4 Posted March 25, 2020 A couple of other things. When you are seating the bead take the valve core out. It can restrict airflow and make it hard to get the tire to seal initially. Another thing that can help get that initial seal is wrapping a ratchet strap around the center of the tread and cinching it down a little to bow out the tire. With tubes, always use some kind of powder lubricant on the tube. After you've put the tube inside the tire, but before you've put the second bead on, remove the valve core and inflate and deflate the tube a few times to make sure there are no wrinkles in it. If a wrinkle gets trapped in there it will eventually cause the tube to wear through. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,784 #5 Posted March 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, WHX24 said: Thanks Lane ...couple of things in there I did not know. I didn’t see “practice your words” in there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,020 #6 Posted March 25, 2020 My Tip: Take them to the tire shop down the road! 2 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oilwell1415 563 #7 Posted March 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, squonk said: My Tip: Take them to the tire shop down the road! That used to be my tip as well, but I put new tires on my Horse right after I got it and it would have cost me $80 to do that. Doing it yourself really isn't that hard if you've got the right tools. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,020 #8 Posted March 25, 2020 After changing tires for 25 years, I let the young guys do it 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digger 66 3,478 #9 Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Lane Ranger said: Attached you will find two sheets of TIPS on mounting Tires and Tubes on your tractors. very cool ! Thank you 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,765 #10 Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, squonk said: My Tip: Take them to the tire shop down the road! Yer a sally Skunk... did that once and they charged me 10 bucks. Wouldn't get out of bed for that. Even greased the the tech another ten for not marring the rims. Took another set in to the same place and got bent over and scratched rims for 40 bucks... wt%??? Talk about inflation and not just the tires! Needless to say the tech did not get a tip. Bought a HF mini for 40 and just did 4 6-12s with no problems. Now money ahead. Best part no scratched rims by an unruly tire monkey! Forgot about the baby powder trick. Thanks for the reminders fellas...Would have made getting the lug staggers I was lookin for (duals) much easier without twisted tubes. Pet peeve is not having the stem perpendicular to the rim. Looks like I got yer OCD Oilwell! Edited March 26, 2020 by WHX24 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,020 #11 Posted March 25, 2020 I get charged 10 bucks a tire.I can bring a tire in 15 min before they close and still get it done. I can buy a set of tires for my truck all mounted and balanced cheaper than my B-I-L .can buy the same 4 tires wholesale. I support my local shop as my wife can have a problem with her van while I'm at work and they get it right in. I'm fortunate I have a shop near me, a shop near work and a Toyota shop ,(van) I can trust. I have better things to do than futz around with tires. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,765 #12 Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Calm down now Mike gonna give yerself a virus you don't or worse yer knickers twisted as @Storminwould say. We're not talking truck/car tires here. We all know those havta go to a pro shop. Understandable you want to keep a good tire shop in your back pocket if the missus has issues while your bent over a dishwasher. Edited March 26, 2020 by WHX24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #13 Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Installing a tube, place it onto the tire first to make sure the stem is facing the right direction otherwise if installed incorrectly once you start inflating the installed tube if will flip away from the hole. With no way to fish it out. Don't ask me how i know this, but you only do it once. Edited March 26, 2020 by bcgold 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,020 #14 Posted March 26, 2020 12 hours ago, WHX24 said: Calm down now Mike gonna give yerself a virus you don't or worse yer knickers twisted as @Storminwould say. We're not talking truck/car tires here. We all know those havta go to a pro shop. Understandable you want to keep a good tire shop in your back pocket if the missus has issues while your bent over a dishwasher. I suppose if you have the kind of fleet you have, if you went to a tire shop, you’d have no money left for beer! I used to have a Coats 40/40 here at Wheel Horse Plaza. One day the light went off in my head. If I quit “horsing around with tires , I could sell this antique machine and buy another Tractor ! Tractor more fun than tires! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,945 #15 Posted March 26, 2020 My fingers are starting to hurt! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,871 #16 Posted March 26, 2020 I use this air blow gun on the valve stems with the core removed. It fits very nice on the stem down to the rubber and seals great. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 966 #17 Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) On 3/25/2020 at 3:46 PM, midpack said: dish soap on the bead is a must! I always mix mine with water though I used to use baby powder in the tire and on the tube on my race bikes to prevent chafing at the lower pressures i was using depending on the terrain for the event Agree with everything you say plus I always run my fingers over the inside of the tire and rim to ensure there is nothing sharp to damage the tube if the rim has some welding slag or splash hit the rim with some sand paper or wheel to remove them. I also take my heat gun and heat the tire (especially in the winter) to ensure the flexibility of the side wall. One additional thing I always did that my uncle taught me is out of the box inflate the TUBE fully leave it for a few minutes so that it takes shape put the powder on. then deflate it. This helps immensely with regards to no creases when inserting into the tire. Edited April 2, 2020 by Rob R 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,765 #18 Posted March 26, 2020 Good tip Rob... laying them in the direct sun helps soften them too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc.gold 3,403 #19 Posted March 26, 2020 How many of you remember the red inner tubes, they always made the best sling shots. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,642 #20 Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Never had a problem mounting them, some were a little more difcult but I got them on. It's getting them off that is the problem. After two or three tries I have that covered too. Edited March 27, 2020 by Lee1977 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 966 #21 Posted March 28, 2020 18 hours ago, Lee1977 said: Never had a problem mounting them, some were a little more difcult but I got them on. It's getting them off that is the problem. After two or three tries I have that covered too. Solved the taking off problem by making a HD bead breaker out of scrap steel since the store boughts are mostly junk, easy to store and works like magic.... most borrowed tool I own! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,642 #22 Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Rob R said: Solved the taking off problem by making a HD bead breaker out of scrap steel since the store boughts are mostly junk, easy to store and works like magic.... most borrowed tool I own! You wouldn't have broke that one loose it was glued on might have cut right trough that 2 ply tire if it didn't fold away.. I don't know what they used but it was good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,065 #23 Posted April 1, 2020 Today I mounted up a pair of tires @RJ Hamner was nice enough to sell me and decided to show y'all my high-tech tire machine for smaller size tires. A piece of 3/4" all-thread rod through a hole in the work bench and a couple tire irons. For freshly painted rims I use an old Tupperware lid to protect the paint, run a washer and rod coupling onto the all-thread and it ain't going anywhere. Lube up the tire and the lower bead slides on by hand. Next I use a pair of highly calibrated 4 X 4 chunks to hold the tire up while inserting the tube (right side up of course). Fingers cut from an old leather glove slipped over the tire irons protect the paint. These 8" tires and shorter spindles should make the 310-8 ride and steer a lot better. If any of you plan to copy this high-tech tire changer you can just send the royalty checks to me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,945 #24 Posted April 1, 2020 9 hours ago, 953 nut said: Today I mounted up a pair of tires @RJ Hamner was nice enough to sell me and decided to show y'all my high-tech tire machine for smaller size tires. A piece of 3/4" all-thread rod through a hole in the work bench and a couple tire irons. For freshly painted rims I use an old Tupperware lid to protect the paint, run a washer and rod coupling onto the all-thread and it ain't going anywhere. Lube up the tire and the lower bead slides on by hand. Next I use a pair of highly calibrated 4 X 4 chunks to hold the tire up while inserting the tube (right side up of course). Fingers cut from an old leather glove slipped over the tire irons protect the paint. These 8" tires and shorter spindles should make the 310-8 ride and steer a lot better. If any of you plan to copy this high-tech tire changer you can just send the royalty checks to me! Richard: That Big Hex Nut you are using looks like a Schnacke Recoil Hex Nut ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,065 #25 Posted April 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, Lane Ranger said: looks like a Schnacke Recoil Hex Nut Nope, just a 3/4" rod coupling. Did Schnancke make a recoil that big? must have been a 40 HP model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites