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I have approximately an 10x12 lean to shed attached to my house on the side of my side loading garage. I currently have a double door that is 6' wide by 6x10" high. The problem I am having is the door starting to fall apart. It is also framed very heavily with 2x6s. So I am currently looking to either do another double door or a garage door. Part of the reason the door is getting damaged in the first place is because water pools at the bottom of the door in the winter and freezes and I have to basically heat and or chisel the ice away. It is where I store my snowblower. 

 

My wife ruled out a sliding barn door and a roll up door mainly for appearance purposes.

 

I was starting to lean to a 8w x7h regular garage door but see a few cons. 

 

1) It would block the light when up. 

2) I would lose quite of bit overhead storage and about 2 feet of wall space.

3) There would be much more work reframing parts of the wall to fit the door.

 

Pros.

1) I could fit my wheel horse plow and snowblower side by side. 

2) Shouldn't freeze to the concrete as easily with a rubber seal. 

3) Don't have to shovel out the doors to get the snowblower out. 

 

I was wondering what thoughts you guys had on and if I am missing something.

 

Thanks. 

 

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ebinmaine

As long as you have enough overhead clearance to mount a roll-up that would be a great way to go.

 

But .... They WILL stick in the ice on the ground.

Happens at work.... Often.

 

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ebinmaine

Also....

A question for thought....

 

Do you shovel out the area in front of the door anyways?

 

Or are you looking to use the snowblower to do that instead of your man power?

 

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SylvanLakeWH

I would do a roll up with a design that meets the boss’s aesthetic tastes...

 

Maybe address the water ponding issue at same time with grade adjustments or French / trench drain? I had similar issue on side of my garage - dug a 3’ deep trench filled with pea gravel and issue went away...

 

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rjg854

How about an overhead door that folds in half when its up. You could actually build one out of plywood, so the same opening can be used. 

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mmmmmdonuts

Part of my issue with the water is there is concrete that extends about 4" past the shed. (The whole floor is concrete) 

Then there is a small concrete pad about 2" below the door. I am not sure how to get rid of the water that just sits there and doesn't drain. 

 

I will look into the folding garage door. That seems intriguing. 

 

I would prefer to just go and use the snowblower or plow rather than shovel but even in the biggest storms it's not to bad to hand shovel a few feet. 

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Pullstart

Pictures would do us bench racers a heap of good to understand the pooling issue.  I imagine improving drainage some how could be done, but not knowing the lay of the land there might be a totally obvious reason it doesn’t work.  It seems there are solid doors that hinge up and out to where maybe only 30% of the door folds into the garage and the rest becomes an overhang?  Is that an option?

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bc.gold

install heat tape in the next door you build.

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Achto

Maybe you could look into building a set of air plane hanger style doors. The door actually folds to outside of the building instead of taking up any room on the inside. Could be clad on the out side any way you wish. Plus they offer up a nice awning while they're open for a shady spot to relax on those hot summer days.:)   "Another selling point for the misses" :thumbs2:

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mmmmmdonuts

Those are great ideas. I never thought of some of those hanger doors or a folding garage door. Those would most likely work. Just got to look into the cost and options a little more in depth. 

 

Here are some quick pictures. My wife wants to make sure it "matches" or looks clean with the door next to it. I tried to show how the concrete and different layers work. 

 

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Pullstart

It looks like there is ample room around the concrete pad to add drain tile, or as mentioned even pea gravel to assist drainage efforts.  I’d run the tile from between the two slabs around the front of the small one then past the garage to the right to start.

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SylvanLakeWH

In addition to what @pullstart suggested, you could mud jack the slab to raise one side of the slab up to meet the garage floor, leaving the other side where it is. This will tip the slab away from the garage and move the water away...

 

My Dad did this on 25’ of sidewalk 4 years ago to address settlement and it is still perfect. No settling. He paid about $250...

 

Just a thought...

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CCW
7 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

In addition to what @pullstart suggested, you could mud jack the slab to raise one side of the slab up to meet the garage floor, leaving the other side where it is. This will tip the slab away from the garage and move the water away...

 

This is a great idea to deal with the water.  I would also go with the same double door, but raise the bottom up 1 3/4 inches.  Under the door I would add a pressure treated 2x6 to raise the entrance.  Tractor then would have to drive over this new threshold, but that would not be a problem.  Door bottom would now be above any standing water.  The extra height would also give you the ability to add a bit of flashing to keep water from seeping between door and threshold. 

 

Edit #1 - Heavy layer of caulking under the new 2 x 6 threshold to prevent water from seeping under it.

Edit #2 - If needed the 2 x 6 threshold could have a front and back taper cut length wise to allow easier rolling.  Would probably keep 1/2 inch square lip edge on the bottom of both sides.

Edit #3 - I foresee one problem with this solution.  If you use a mower deck will it clear a 2 x 6 threshold. Might need a bit of test or additional ramping.

 

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mmmmmdonuts

Thanks for the suggestion. I love the threshold idea. I definitely think that would work and could definitely solve my problem. I have done aluminum ones in the past with a lot of success. I have also thought of doing it with concrete possibly as well to make a smoother ramp. Something like this. It keeps it lower and not as tall so I don't snag on mower decks etc. I have had a problem because of the lip from one piece of concrete to the other and was debating on doing an elongated ramp almost. 

 

https://www.hartfordbuildingproducts.com/products/1-2-x-6-ada-compliant-saddle-threshold-mill-finish?variant=52671615499&currency=USD&utm_campaign=gs-2018-10-24&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9-Oc7_iQ6AIVB4bICh3F8QV5EAQYCCABEgKQvfD_BwE

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CCW

If I had the funds and building a shed it would definitely be something I would look at.

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mmmmmdonuts
10 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

 

I would love a roll up door. My wife doesn't like the look of it because it doesn't match the other door or blend into the siding. 

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