richmondred01 2,237 #1 Posted March 5, 2020 What do you guys think the pros and cons are of using a stack muffler vs original muffler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #2 Posted March 5, 2020 In the interest of full disclosure, the biggest reason I use a stack muffler is because I just plain old-fashioned not messing around like the look of them. There is also a practical reason though. I like to have stack muffler that is tall enough and blows sideways so that the exhaust is not coming back in my face Another reason leaning towards practicality is noise level. Our tractors are all workers. as much as I love the sound of a loud engine for short periods of time I really like ours to be as quiet as possible. I have a late 70s early 80s Cub muffler flipped up to use as a stack, on the Patriot horse. It is dramatically quieter than the sideways facing overgrown pepper pot or the Nelson style that goes down in front of the engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkg520 509 #3 Posted March 5, 2020 I have a wooded lot and I need to be careful looking out for any low tree limbs. Other than than I prefer a stack. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,784 #4 Posted March 5, 2020 Putt Putt’s stack was out of convenience and necessity pretty much. My pepper pot unit rusted to pieces and I happened to have this Cherry Bomb that was gifted to me. Quite a few things show up at my place with the inclination that I can do something with them. Same as the front weight on Putt Putt, it just showed up one day. Frank’s stack was purely for a cool factor, attempting to make a scaled up version of Putt Putt. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,502 #5 Posted March 5, 2020 Stacks are purely for cool factor. Really no other purpose. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,168 #6 Posted March 5, 2020 Ahhhh, who wants an old ugly stack on a nice horse? 5 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCW 1,292 #7 Posted March 5, 2020 I on the other hand like to trim look of the muffler next to the engine and not sticking up. It all comes down to what works and looks good to you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,349 #8 Posted March 5, 2020 In my case just personal preference, some of my tractors have stacks and others have a muffler. I like the looks with a stack But then, this is a good look too 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldnboy 910 #9 Posted March 6, 2020 I think for some look of us its simply cool. But I also like to switch from stack to the cheap round muffler when mowing in trees. But Jim makes nice stack mufflers 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,065 #10 Posted March 6, 2020 Like @ebinmaine said, keeps the exhaust out of my face and I like the look. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJR49 129 #11 Posted March 22, 2020 All that weight on the pipe nipple isn't a problem? have a C-160 with the OEM muffler. It's not louder than any other Wheel Horse I have owned but I wear sound suppressors when I fire it up. If you can make a big V8 quite there must be a muffler out there I can bolt on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #12 Posted March 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, RJR49 said: All that weight on the pipe nipple isn't a problem? have a C-160 with the OEM muffler. It's not louder than any other Wheel Horse I have owned but I wear sound suppressors when I fire it up. If you can make a big V8 quite there must be a muffler out there I can bolt on. Water cooled engines are much more quiet than air cooled engines because of thickness and construction of the block. Air cooled blocks transmit heat and sound quite readily to the outside. Even if you could pipe your air cooled exhaust into a totally silent exhaust the engine as a whole will still be much louder than a liquid cooled one. In my post above I mentioned the Cub muffler. Those are the most quiet widely available small engine muffler I've personally seen/heard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,373 #13 Posted March 22, 2020 Back about 38+ years ago this is what my dad did for a stack (no muffler) on our CUB Cadet Original the chrome pipe was actually an extension pipe for an Electrolux vacuum cleaner , no wonder my hearing is less than it should be or 30 years of factory work or .... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJR49 129 #14 Posted March 22, 2020 Eric Thanks for the reply. I'm going to start this as a new topic so I don't hijack richmondred01 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #15 Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, WVHillbilly520H said: stack (no muffler) on our CUB Cadet Original the chrome pipe was actually an extension pipe for an Electrolux vacuum cleaner THAT is an awesome example of Use what ya have.... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ET160 29 #16 Posted April 5, 2020 I have one on my B-80. It's a little quieter, but I may get more fumes coming my way with it than with the stock muffler. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richmondred01 2,237 #17 Posted May 16, 2020 Bringing back this thread. The stack I have is a Stanley Muffler. It’s very loud. I have Tinnitus from years of utilizing firearms as well a air tools, working on cars etc... Although I wear ear protection it’s still rather loud. Has anyone used a stack muffler that, maintains performance, yet lowers the decibels so this old man’s tinnitus won’t get worse? thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #18 Posted May 16, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 10:38 AM, ebinmaine said: Cub muffler Had good luck with that one ... Definitely more quiet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richmondred01 2,237 #19 Posted May 16, 2020 J cub or cadet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #20 Posted May 16, 2020 Search cub cadet 125 muffler On Google. You'll have them come up for sale from $28 to $50 or so. I can't remember where I bought mine. It has a nice deep tone and low noise level. To make it a stack I added a vertical by cutting a piece of chrome plated sink to floor drain pipe, cut to the angle I wanted. This adds about 20" to the height. More than most folks want. I like to have the exhaust exit as high as possible and trees aren't an issue. Another option is to use one from a Gravely. I've not personally used one but understand they're good as well. Here's an example: https://www.ombwarehouse.com/gravely-18543-muffler.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnv71BRCOARIsAIkxW9Hdv3VFeZ-dOIUTN_4TkqO52psgHEk1cqnkYIEtKVehowZP1skc7zoaAtbLEALw_wcB 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kasey54 305 #21 Posted May 18, 2020 I don't have any stacks , but I'll say this; I've cultivated tomato plants with a 7 hp, and 10 hp kohler tiller tractor and the exhaust has killed lower leaves on the plants. The stack would eliminate that. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,515 #22 Posted May 23, 2020 Now that I have the Stack on the 1257, Im looking for the cleanest install for the brace....any Ideas that you guys or gals have used and it looked original to the machine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #23 Posted May 23, 2020 Here's what I built for the Cinnamon Horse C-160 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymag3 2,515 #24 Posted May 23, 2020 That looks very supportive, especially with the added twists for rigidity. Where can I find the locking nuts for the 1" npt pipe? Also a muffler clamp that small...Should I go to the engine vs. the frame? Any difference? I guess there is no movement either way. thanks !!!! john Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #25 Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, johnnymag3 said: That looks very supportive, especially with the added twists for rigidity. Where can I find the locking nuts for the 1" npt pipe? Also a muffler clamp that small...Should I go to the engine vs. the frame? Any difference? I guess there is no movement either way. thanks !!!! john the lock nuts are in the electrical section at home depot or lowes 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites