bellevillerod 834 #1 Posted March 4, 2020 Hey Men Missed this site for a while, life threw us a curve ball. But we seem to have the road ahead graded, not paved but the ruts removed for now. So I was able to move my 854 out of the shed an into the shop. I was able to find a 854 that was unmolested. But in need of a refresh. So the tear down begins, as normal I will need some guidance from you all. Think I am going to take it down and do a 100% redo. Not going for a show rig, but a real nice example of what it once was. I know you all like them there pic's so here ya go. 8 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #2 Posted March 4, 2020 Well this was a first, the guy I bought it from claimed it ran. He lost the key...... I can"t get it to fire up and run. When I pulled the fuel pump I see that it does not have the lever on it. Did they all come with a lever? Could it have a pulse pump? Does anyone know of where I could get one, I can't find the lever anywhere. Willing to buy one if anyone has one for sale. Really want to keep it as original as I can. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #3 Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, bellevillerod said: Well this was a first, the guy I bought it from claimed it ran. He lost the key...... I can"t get it to fire up and run. When I pulled the fuel pump I see that it does not have the lever on it. Did they all come with a lever? Could it have a pulse pump? Does anyone know of where I could get one, I can't find the lever anywhere. Willing to buy one if anyone has one for sale. Really want to keep it as original as I can. Thanks It is a pulse pump. No lever no worries. Yer good. @buckrancher sells a replacement diaphragm for them. Saw your classified ... You should be able to rebuild that one. Great to see you back !!!! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,065 #4 Posted March 4, 2020 Welcome back! Here is a thread that you will find useful, @JPWH did a great job documenting every step. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,984 #5 Posted March 4, 2020 back Those pulse pumps need a good diaphragm to operate properly. If the material is stiff then it won't work well or at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #6 Posted March 4, 2020 I knew ya all would come thru for me. All the pumps I see online are mechanical an the manual says they came that way. The material inside is as stiff as a board. That would be my fault as I drained it dry before storing it. Well great, I saw the rebuild kits online so I will get one heading this way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #7 Posted March 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, bellevillerod said: I knew ya all would come thru for me. All the pumps I see online are mechanical an the manual says they came that way. The material inside is as stiff as a board. That would be my fault as I drained it dry before storing it. Well great, I saw the rebuild kits online so I will get one heading this way. Rod, I'm no scientist but I would lean towards that not being your fault... Age alone is of course a factor and then when you add the possibility of ethanol into the equation it changes the flexibility and feel of that rubber and makes it resemble cardboard. I've seen a few of those rubber membranes that were still surrounded with gasoline and stiff as a board.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,765 #8 Posted March 4, 2020 Welcome back Rod & hopefully that road gets paved soon. Just had a 702 with a pulse pump go bad and yes new diaphragm fixed it right up. Nice to see you got the steering wheel off without a struggle! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyLittrell 3,877 #9 Posted March 4, 2020 Welcome back! I come and go depending on who is throwing what at me as well!! Luckily this awesome site treats us like we were never missing! I can always come here for a pick-me-up when down in the dumps!! Randy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #10 Posted March 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, WHX24 said: Welcome back Rod & hopefully that road gets paved soon. Just had a 702 with a pulse pump go bad and yes new diaphragm fixed it right up. Nice to see you got the steering wheel off without a struggle! Knocked the pin out gave it a couple of twists and she popped right off. Can't wait to get to the hitch pin.....last one I had to remove from a Commando 8 gave me a fight. I ended up cutting it into 3 pieces and using a torch. Had to machine up a new one, made it out of stainless so no more worries about rust. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #11 Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, RandyLittrell said: Welcome back! I come and go depending on who is throwing what at me as well!! Luckily this awesome site treats us like we were never missing! I can always come here for a pick-me-up when down in the dumps!! Randy So true an thanks. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dells68 7,498 #12 Posted March 4, 2020 5 hours ago, bellevillerod said: Knocked the pin out gave it a couple of twists and she popped right off. Can't wait to get to the hitch pin.....last one I had to remove from a Commando 8 gave me a fight. I ended up cutting it into 3 pieces and using a torch. Had to machine up a new one, made it out of stainless so no more worries about rust. Ok, you know where I’m going ... We’d love to see a pic of that hitch you tabbed up!! Sounds slick! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #13 Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, dells68 said: Ok, you know where I’m going ... We’d love to see a pic of that hitch you tabbed up!! Sounds slick! When I get a minute I'll take it out. Not much to see...lol shiny metal pin. It was the 2nd one that fought me hard and I swore I was gonna come up with a way to avoid that in the future. When that rust has 30+ years to weld itself together it doesn't want to let go. I had a set of hub's on that same rig that were stuck on so tight I had to split them with a cut off wheel to remove them. Just gives the level of satisfaction a huge bump when the tractor is finished. All the effort is so worth it. Man the stress I get rid of swinging that BFH on a rusted hub........priceless!! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #14 Posted March 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, bellevillerod said: Man the stress I get rid of swinging that BFH on a rusted hub........priceless Yyeeaahh.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #15 Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: Yyeeaahh.... Ya I don't buy that myself....lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,679 #16 Posted March 5, 2020 11 hours ago, bellevillerod said: I knew ya all would come thru for me. All the pumps I see online are mechanical an the manual says they came that way. The material inside is as stiff as a board. That would be my fault as I drained it dry before storing it. Well great, I saw the rebuild kits online so I will get one heading this way. Make sure the rebuild kit is the pulse pump type, not the lever type. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #17 Posted March 5, 2020 14 hours ago, dells68 said: Ok, you know where I’m going ... We’d love to see a pic of that hitch you tabbed up!! Sounds slick! Here ya go, I guess I will have to make one up for the 854 now. Along with the implement pin. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,765 #18 Posted March 5, 2020 I drilled and tapped a zerk in the tranny casting to help keep some grease on that pin. Looks like you are real handy with a lathe Rod! 15 hours ago, dells68 said: Ok, you know where I’m going ... We’d love to see a pic of that hitch you tabbed up!! We haven't a clue where you are going Dells...what's worse is you don't have a clue either! Every body else kinda got it the it's just the pin that is SS. Aint you got a wheel barrow to roll??? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #19 Posted March 5, 2020 4 hours ago, WHX24 said: I drilled and tapped a zerk in the tranny casting to help keep some grease on that pin. Looks like you are real handy with a lathe Rod! We haven't a clue where you are going Dells...what's worse is you don't have a clue either! Every body else kinda got it the it's just the pin that is SS. Aint you got a wheel barrow to roll??? Been a Toolmaker for the last 36 years.....still learning something everyday!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,784 #20 Posted March 5, 2020 Welcome home, Rod! Say, that choke bob looks pretty beat up. I’ll give ya a handful of scribed lines and a metric crescent wrench for that 854 so you don’t have to worry about fixing it up... I’d even be willing to toss in some high fives too! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #21 Posted March 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, pullstart said: Welcome home, Rod! Say, that choke bob looks pretty beat up. I’ll give ya a handful of scribed lines and a metric crescent wrench for that 854 so you don’t have to worry about fixing it up... I’d even be willing to toss in some high fives too! Easy their Kev... You're giving away too much. Those metric crescent wrenches are pretty near priceless just by themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,784 #22 Posted March 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Easy their Kev... You're giving away too much. Those metric crescent wrenches are pretty near priceless just by themselves. I’m feeling generous today. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,266 #23 Posted March 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, pullstart said: I’m feeling generous today. @bellevillerod. You better hurry bud.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #24 Posted March 6, 2020 15 hours ago, pullstart said: Welcome home, Rod! Say, that choke bob looks pretty beat up. I’ll give ya a handful of scribed lines and a metric crescent wrench for that 854 so you don’t have to worry about fixing it up... I’d even be willing to toss in some high fives too! Kool thanks brother those will go good with my metric pipe wrench an flat blade screwdrivers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevillerod 834 #25 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) Hey guys a little update and a favor? Here is what I was able to get done last night. The seat was/is in rough shape with some cracks and welding done to it. But we'll get it taken care of. Now I did notice that my lever for the parking brake is gone. Any chance I can get some dimensions from someone for one? So I can fab one up, and do you guys know where I might find the knob for it. Thanks ....Never mind on the knob, found it in the vendor section thx. Edited March 6, 2020 by bellevillerod 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
