5053 Clean and Rebuild

[Palskidoo 1]

Hello everyone,

I am a newbie to Wheel Horses (my experience is with cub cadets) but my next project will be using a 3 speed transmission out of a friend old Wheel Horse which I believe is a 5053. The input shaft was stuck so I decided to split the casing and see what the issue was. Luckily it was just a rusty bearing and now everything is loose. My issue now is finding and replacing the seals for the axles, input shaft, and the brake shaft. 

 

Are these seals hard to find? Are there any tricks to removing the old seals or installing the new ones? 

 

Again, I'm a newbie to these so if these are dumb questions please bare with me. I'm sure ill have more questions come up as i go further with the project.

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,265]

 

 

Feel free to ask as many questions as you want. The only dumb question is the one you did not ask.

 

 

 

If you take a look at the transmission section, one of the threads pinned near the top is seal and bearing cross reference information.

 

Those parts are readily available from many different sources.

 

Good luck. Keep us posted. Please post pictures. We all likes our pictures.

 

[WHX?? 48,762]

Complete bearing & seal kits can be had from a buddy of ours here

https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/transmissions.html

As EB said at the top of this section is a pinned thread that has all the part numbers if you wish to source them local. You'll find most of the bearings & seals are common sizes.  These are fairly easy to work on so if you can do a Cub rear end you can do these. The big thing is to press the new bearings in … no BFH on them. Put tape over keyways to keep from nicking seals when installing. All capped bearings flush with the inside cases. Open bearings just enough to install the seal. 

Here is a manual that might help & lots of tranny pros here to help as well. 

There is also a section here titled other brands … feel free to post pics ther of your project. We like our   here! 

wheelhorse_6-8mechtransman.pdf

[pfrederi 17,662]

5053 Bearings and seals

 

 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by pfrederi

[Achto 27,502]

  Looks like some of the gang already has you covered.

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

Yep looks like they all have it covered!

All l can say is,,

 

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[oliver2-44 9,679]

That transmission is just the beginning.  With that red horse in you barn, the yellow better be wary,  soon there will be more red than yellow.  When they breed with the yellow,  they come out red as it's the dominate color.  

[Palskidoo 1]

Ok, 

I am finally getting back to working on this transmission. I am going to be ordering the gasket and probably the outer axle seals. 

 

Do you guys have any other suggestions? Is one of the needle bearings or other seals a good candidate for replacement? 

 

thanks  

[ebinmaine 67,265]

6 minutes ago, Palskidoo said:

Ok, 

I am finally getting back to working on this transmission. I am going to be ordering the gasket and probably the outer axle seals. 

 

Do you guys have any other suggestions? Is one of the needle bearings or other seals a good candidate for replacement? 

 

thanks  

While you have it split it's not a bad idea to do wheel bearings and seals.

 

All parts can be had from our vendor Wheelhorse parts and more.

 

[WHX?? 48,762]

35 minutes ago, Palskidoo said:

needle bearings or other seals a good candidate for replacement? 

Fit the axles or shafts into their respective bearings and if you can move them more than 1/32" or even 1/64 I would replace them. Easier to do it now when you have it split. 

Edited February 24, 2020 by WHX24

[pfrederi 17,662]

For about $7 each I always replace the axle needle bearings when it is split....My time is worth something  .maybe not much but something

 

Besides when needle bearings fail like this bad things happen....

 

 

[rmaynard 15,427]

Just rebuilt a 701 transmission (5007) and the most expensive seal was the smallest one, the SKF-7410. That's the input shaft seal. After buying one locally for about $7.50, I found 3 more in a bin that I had overlooked. Duh! But the bad news/good news is that I damaged the new seal putting it in. So I had a spare. Damaged that one too. Found out what was causing the problem and the third one was the charm. Still have a spare.

[WHX?? 48,762]

1 hour ago, rmaynard said:

bad news/good news is that I damaged the new seal putting it in

I usually have three on the shelf. I take the first two and lay them on the bench and BFH them to destroy them and get it over with. Third one goes in no problem! 

[ebinmaine 67,265]

Just now, WHX24 said:

I usually have three on the shelf. I take the first two and lay them on the bench and BFH them to destroy them and get it over with. Third one goes in no problem! 

That right there is WISDOM.

[pfrederi 17,662]

19 hours ago, rmaynard said:

Just rebuilt a 701 transmission (5007) and the most expensive seal was the smallest one, the SKF-7410. That's the input shaft seal. After buying one locally for about $7.50, I found 3 more in a bin that I had overlooked. Duh! But the bad news/good news is that I damaged the new seal putting it in. So I had a spare. Damaged that one too. Found out what was causing the problem and the third one was the charm. Still have a spare.

  You need a new seal supplier $3.27 at mine.

[WHX?? 48,762]

39 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

  You need a new seal supplier $3.27 at mine.

And your source is?!?! 

[pfrederi 17,662]

54 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

And your source is?!?! 

EB Atmus

[rmaynard 15,427]

1 hour ago, pfrederi said:

  You need a new seal supplier $3.27 at mine.

When you get to the point where you are tired and just want to get it done, you sometimes just have to bow to the NAPA store manager and walk away with the expensive one. 

By the way, who is your supplier?

 

Okay, we crossed posts. 

Edited February 25, 2020 by rmaynard

[pfrederi 17,662]

6 minutes ago, rmaynard said:

When you get to the point where you are tired and just want to get it done, you sometimes just have to bow to the NAPA store manager and walk away with the expensive one. 

By the way, who is your supplier?

 

Okay, we crossed posts. 

I understand besides if you only need one thing yours works out to be cheaper.  Even the auto parts store is a long drive for me and if they have to get it  then two trips...