Any Roof 60 Tractor owners on here?

[wallfish 16,994]

Found a couple of Roof 60 tractors. They aren't the Jeep style Palomino but they are still very cool tractors. And go up to 22 mph! woo hoo

The two I found do not have engines and they connect the hydro trans to the engine with a drive shaft onto the flywheel side. I have a 20 HP Kohler but will need a flywheel. So I know JDs connect with a shaft but just not sure of the bolt spacing on those flywheels from a JD. Hope they would fit this tractor as this is kind of the only thing holding me up from pulling the trigger on them.

I do have an Onan B43 from a JD but spacing on the flywheel holes is too small although I believe it can still work if required to drill new holes on the drive shaft plate.

Any advice or help is appreciated

 

For the curious, they look like this. The 2 I'm looking at aren't as nice but making 1 outta 2 ain't bad

 

 

[stevebo-(Moderator) 8,330]

Just go get them and with your handy work you will be able to figure it out!!

[squonk 41,067]

John, I'm sure there is enough PVC kicking around your place to make a "shear" adapter! 

[SALTYWRIGHT 859]

GO FOR IT JOHN, YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT.  ANY GOOD MACHINE SHOP CAN REDRILL THE FLYWHEEL.

[Achto 27,565]

Great find John!!

I'm not sure how Roof made their fly wheel to drive shaft connection, but here is my knowledge on how Cub Cadet did theirs. If nothing else it may give you some ideas. They made an adapter that bolted to the engines factory holes in the fly wheel. If you had a CC with a Briggs & you wanted to install a Kohler then you would need the adapter that was made for the Kohler. The adapter for the Kohler's is actually more plentiful than the Briggs adapter, I did a Kohler to Briggs swap & ended up making an adapter for the Briggs engine.

 

For CC this plate would bolt to the fly wheel, then it would be connected to the drive shaft using a rubber flex washer.

 

Adapter

 

Pick up plate from adapter to drive shaft.

 

 

Assembly.

   

[oliver2-44 9,731]

It's been a looong time (1975) since I worked at the Ford tractor shop, but I seem to recall the Ford GT's were driven from the Flywheel side.  i seem to recall a stub shaft bolted to the flywheel.  i think Power King uses the same or similar setup.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,040]

The Kohler shafts are listed in this catalogue. Just new models are listed but older lists for the K-Series was almost identical.

Click on the picture for a pic of the page 18.

Garry

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

Some of the big AYP (Roper/Craftsman)  were set up very similar with flywheel to driveshaft ... Like you see buried under my CC collection

Edited February 5, 2020 by WVHillbilly520H

[pacer 3,169]

Some of the  Massey Ferguson GT's had this type set-up - driven off the flywheel to a splined shaft. (these pics are of my 1650) Works great ---- except they made the spline 3/4x11 and that makes it almost impossible to find, and of course they get sloppy loose after time. These 2 pics are where I did find Surplus Center had couplers (no shaft) in that size (3/4"x11)  and while the new couplers took up a bit of slack it still had a good bit of slack so I added the set screws to the coupler. Again this took a bit more slack out but I just could not get it all tight. It at least should last a good few more yrs.

 

 

[19richie66 17,500]

Get them John. We’ll figure out an adapter. I have pieces and parts to several different setups. Someone is bound to have a kohler adapter for you.

[wallfish 16,994]

The drive shafts on these use actual U-joints, not the more common rubber flex washers like Dan has posted, which I believe was used for the B43 I have. Could probably use a set up like that for another project if anyone has one of those. Original Engines were a 23hp kohler so the smaller engine adapters won't have a big enough bolt pattern. There are a few other things which could use clarification by someone which has one of these to help with value but it can all be figured out. Just ordered manual and IPL which should help. Usually the process is to just look, cut, weld and redo if that doesn't work but this would be nicer to keep a rare machine mostly original. 

Still working on the guy to sell the Palomino tractor too.

[Achto 27,565]

Hope you can talk him out of the Palomino. Not only are they cool, they make great show cruisers.

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

On 2/5/2020 at 5:50 PM, Achto said:

Hope you can talk him out of the Palomino. Not only are they cool, they make great show cruisers.

I have personally seen and sat in one about 3 years ago (during the big WH auction near me) sadly it wasn't offered for sale or bid.

[Achto 27,565]

@WVHillbilly520H, a friend of mine has or had "not sure of the status at this point " two Palomino's. I have road in them & had a pretty good chance to give them a close look over. I've often had the thought to just to build my own custom one. The sheet metal work would be fairly easy to do. So far it's just been another project that I have put in the some day drawing pile.

[WVHillbilly520H 10,373]

2 minutes ago, Achto said:

@WVHillbilly520H, a friend of mine has or had "not sure of the status at this point " two Palomino's. I have road in them & had a pretty good chance to give them a close look over. I've often had the thought to just to build my own custom one. The sheet metal work would be fairly easy to do. So far it's just been another project that I have put in the some day drawing pile.

Just buy a Mahindra Roxor... https://www.google.com/search?q=mahindra+roxor&oq=mahindra+Ro&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l2.10479j0j7&client=ms-android-att-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[Achto 27,565]

That's a sweet look machine.