My next custom Wheel Horse

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

That is a unanimous ! 
Remember l shortened it by 3 inches.

[Pullstart 62,884]

Sweet!  At least I can mock stuff up and see how it looks!

[adsm08 2,060]

On 1/7/2020 at 7:40 AM, The Tool Crib said:

I think hair is overrated you have to wash it and style it set it cut it and its still just hair!

most times in the end it always falls out anyway!  

 

 

Speak for yourself. My rear end is harrier than it's ever been.

[wallfish 17,000]

1 hour ago, pullstart said:

 I might have the ability to draw up what I’d like and have a new steel tub bent up at a local sheet metal shop.

That's cheating. You gotta use ALL WH parts

[WHX?? 48,815]

'Fish has got a valid point Kev...just sayin...

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1 minute ago, wallfish said:

That's cheating. You gotta use ALL WH parts

 

Sure.  Ya got a 4 wheel wagon you wanna donate to the cause?

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1 minute ago, WHX24 said:

'Fish has got a valid point Kev...just sayin...

 

You wanna send a wagon over too?  I’ll build two of em!

[wallfish 17,000]

Just now, pullstart said:

Sure.  Ya got a 4 wheel wagon you wanna donate to the cause?

@stevebo has one.

A 4 wheel cart is huge Is that thing gonna be 10' long?

[WHX?? 48,815]

Tom @Shynon does but he's got his trousers  down too...

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3 minutes ago, wallfish said:

@stevebo has one.

A 4 wheel cart is huge Is that thing gonna be 10' long?

 

Sure, why not?

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3 minutes ago, WHX24 said:

Tom @Shynon does but he's got his trousers  down too...

 

It’s never fun to be caught with your pants down!

[SylvanLakeWH 25,560]

Just sayin...Way too many visuals in this thread that are not conducive to keeping one’s lunch down...

 

 

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23 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

Just sayin...Way too many visuals in this thread that are not conducive to keeping one’s lunch down...

 

 

 

And we’re only to page 3!

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Well here is some progress.  I dug some of the major components out of the rack!  The transmission was in one of the 2’ deep totes.  I forgot how heavy it was!

 

 

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@wallfish I’m pretty sure you were a pioneer of the doodle bug style Horses.  Do you have any archived pictures of your steering setups for offset steering shafts?  I thought I took better pictures at the show, I guess not.  Seems the fan gear on this one was on the “firewall” but I don’t recall the rest of it.

 

 

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I love finding potential parts!

 

 

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I realize my explanation is a bit backwards from the DB setup.  The inside pulley is the driven one.  When the clutch locks up, the outside pulley begins to drive the transaxle forward.  I’m sure either way would work, if I can fit it into the build!

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And just like that, we have a pile of parts!

 

 

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These are 27x10’s.  Dare I say they are too big?  I think I’ll find a set of 8” wide tires around here and go from there.  No matter how I make it longer, one thing’s for sure.  It needs to be longer!

 

The hydro trans is bolted up for the time being.

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,503]

4 hours ago, pullstart said:

too big?

No!!

 

They're perfect.....

 

 

 

 

 

IMHO of course....

 

 

[19richie66 17,508]

Actually a set of meats that big with some tread on them would look killer tucked up under the bed and would take up some length on the visual side of it, meaning you wouldn’t have as much frame showing down the side under the bed. Keep it going Kev........

[wallfish 17,000]

7 hours ago, pullstart said:

@wallfish I’m pretty sure you were a pioneer of the doodle bug style Horses.  Do you have any archived pictures of your steering setups for offset steering shafts?  I thought I took better pictures at the show, I guess not.  Seems the fan gear on this one was on the “firewall” but I don’t recall the rest of it.

I can probably find some but it was offset with a couple of sprockets and a chain.

Just a quick thought for something more "heavy duty" is to use a couple of universal joints in the shaft and maybe in the steering wheel shaft too. A Ross type of steering mechanism would be easy to offset and give reliability.

Or, if your ambitious enough, a plan I have for a build is use two frames welded side by side, cut one side off of two front axles after the axle pin and use coil over shocks from a frame to the front axles for front suspension. Now the frame will be wide enough to easily offset the steering with different length tie rods

Edited January 9, 2020 by wallfish

[953 nut 55,230]

20 minutes ago, wallfish said:

Ross type of steering mechanism would be easy to offset and give reliability

    or a fan-gear from the 953/1054/GT-14 with a drag link going to the left spindle just like is on "Hot Wheels"

25 minutes ago, wallfish said:

two frames welded side by side, cut one side off of two front axles after the axle pin

  John, do you think that a wider front axle would help with the steering problem a longer frame would create? 

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

8 hours ago, pullstart said:

  The transmission was in...I forgot how heavy it was!

 

Those old Sundstrands were beastly hydros.  We beat on dad’s for over 25 years and couldn’t kill it of course it had proper fluid and filter changes but I’m a believer.  Dad said that they used the same hydro unit in various self propelled 1960’s farm equipment that was much larger than a  with good success.  He’d be on a service call for a machine and see while wrenching on it that it had the same hydro as his garden tractor!  The three most damaging things to a hydro are air, water, and dirt.  If you can keep them clean and fresh fluid—those old heavy beasts are tough as nails... 

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14 minutes ago, PeacemakerJack said:

Those old Sundstrands were beastly hydros.  We beat on dad’s for over 25 years and couldn’t kill it of course it had proper fluid and filter changes but I’m a believer.  Dad said that they used the same hydro unit in various self propelled 1960’s farm equipment that was much larger than a  with good success.  He’d be on a service call for a machine and see while wrenching on it that it had the same hydro as his garden tractor!  The three most damaging things to a hydro are air, water, and dirt.  If you can keep them clean and fresh fluid—those old heavy beasts are tough as nails... 

 

I’m quite tempted to do a refresh and thorough cleaning inside this one, just to be sure it’s in tip top shape!  If anything, stick a belt on it and run it off a pto for a while and see how it does before making that decision.