My next custom Wheel Horse

[Pullstart 62,783]

I put together a table top out of some scrap OSB and a 12’ skid cut down to 8’ or so.  Hopefully the next time this machine moves off the lift, it’s under it’s own power.

 

The front of the frame was cleaned up and the hood mount is tacked on.

 

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,266]

5 minutes ago, pullstart said:

rods

excuse my bad memory if you've already said this but what's going to be on those rods? Some sort of steps I assume?

[Pullstart 62,783]

9 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

excuse my bad memory if you've already said this but what's going to be on those rods? Some sort of steps I assume?

 

I haven’t decided.  Steps / fenders / mud flaps / curb feelers? 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,266]

Just now, pullstart said:

 

I haven’t decided.  Steps / fenders / mud flaps / curb feelers? 

 

 

E. All of the above.

 

[Stormin 9,981]

15 hours ago, pullstart said:

 

 

 I can't help thinking that a couple of gusset plates, under the joints would add some strength. Belt and braces. Suspenders to you.

Edited February 17, 2020 by Stormin

[Pullstart 62,783]

@Stormin I’ll surely be beefing up the chassis and plating this area will be part of it all.  

[Pullstart 62,783]

I dug this 2” x 3/16” angle iron out of my scrap/spares pile.  It’ll be great for stiffening this project up.

 

 

[Pullstart 62,783]

Calling all bridge builders, engineers and backyard wrenches, not necessarily in that order!

 

I plan to use this angle iron to rigid up this machine.  It’ll be upside down, as to resemble C channel from the inside.  The front will double up the 45 degree section.  It’ll be notched so that the two horizontal pieces will meet to be welded.  

 

Blue pill or red pill?  Does it not matter for this caliber build?  If the bottom piece was parallel to the top, I have some 3” wide flat stock that I could fill the whole length, actually creating that C channel.

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,266]

Overkill is in the eye of the beholder.

 

 

Or something like that....

 

 

I'd lean towards red pill if that has an extra cross member.

 

[Stormin 9,981]

Another vote for RED from me.

[Pullstart 62,783]

25 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Overkill is in the eye of the beholder.

 

 

Or something like that....

 

 

I'd lean towards red pill if that has an extra cross member.

 

 

I could just as easily add another crossmember in the blue sketch, I just figured they were touching at the front bend... no real need to add one.  I have a bunch of this 3/16” angle... 

[ebinmaine 67,266]

1 minute ago, pullstart said:

 

I could just as easily add another crossmember in the blue sketch, I just figured they were touching at the front bend... no real need to add one.  I have a bunch of this 3/16” angle... 

okay so that being the case, what would be the difference between the red and the blue? Just the angle?

 

 

[Pullstart 62,783]

7 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

okay so that being the case, what would be the difference between the red and the blue? Just the angle?

 

 

 

Yep.  Triangulation or not...

[ebinmaine 67,266]

I'm still voting for red but I'm changing my reasons a little bit.

 

in consideration of the fact that you can add a cross brace to either one of the designs I don't know which one, if either, would be stronger.

 

For the sake of aesthetics and future modification possibilities I would stick with a parallel frame rail system.

 

Since you have flatstock to add to it I would vote for that as well.

 

Changing that whole arrangement to a large c channel wood eliminate 99% of the possibilities of Dynamic Loading even being so much as a concern.

 

[Pullstart 62,783]

I’m there with you on the aesthetics idea EB.   It’s not like I’ll have a lot of ground clearance issue with the front being so high!

[Tractorhead 9,064]

I‘m more on the blue pill...

why?

 

Now, it looks for me more as a Dragsterframe or a Pullerframe, than a simply Dump truck.

i simply and really like that Shape.

And some memories come in mind - goood memories i had and i like to remember..👍

 

 

but how eric meant it‘s in the eye of the beholder.

The stiffness shall be imho a little bit more in blue shape, but thats secondary in that design,

except you plan an V6 as Engine... maybe

.... once upon a time😎

[Pullstart 62,783]

31 minutes ago, Tractorhead said:

I‘m more on the blue pill...

why?

 

Now, it looks for me more as a Dragsterframe or a Pullerframe, than a simply Dump truck.

i simply and really like that Shape.

And some memories come in mind - goood memories i had and i like to remember..👍

 

 

but how eric meant it‘s in the eye of the beholder.

The stiffness shall be imho a little bit more in blue shape, but thats secondary in that design,

except you plan an V6 as Engine... maybe

.... once upon a time😎

 

No V6 power here Stefan, this big guy will only have 6.5 horse powers.  I like the look of the triangulated frame, but it’s so long and narrow I’m afraid the 3” separation or 7” overall height at the transmission plate aren’t enough to make a difference.

[Pullstart 62,783]

Thinking out loud, and sometimes talking out loud to myself... the parallel beam would be much easier to fabricate.  I already know the kick up is a 45 degree angle.  I have proven that I can cut the angle iron to bend that way.  Anything I build will be stronger than what is there currently.  I think I’ll stick with what I know on this portion.

[ebinmaine 67,266]

5 minutes ago, pullstart said:

Anything I build will be stronger than what is there currently.  I think I’ll stick with what I know on this portion

 

 

[Tractorhead 9,064]

7 hours ago, pullstart said:

Wow.  I tossed the WH steering together for grins and giggles.  I’m not sure if I can do much better than what we’ve got here already!  Before I proceed too much further, I’ll use a long skid to build a new lift table top.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I refer to that pict.

 

Remembers me a bit on that...

 

😎

 

ok,

let me tell it so - i have a dream..... 😂😂😂

 

Edited February 17, 2020 by Tractorhead

[SylvanLakeWH 25,490]

Blue

 

 

lookin good!

[wallfish 16,983]

4 hours ago, pullstart said:

the parallel beam would be much easier to fabricate.

What's your plans for your feet? If going 2 seater the bottom bracing and the floor board support can be the same thing.

[Pullstart 62,783]

20 hours ago, wallfish said:

What's your plans for your feet? If going 2 seater the bottom bracing and the floor board support can be the same thing.

 

I haven’t yet thought that far ahead... but I have that tube bender, I could fab something out of round stuff if needed.

 

 

I cut the first parallel piece and have some height trimming to do before I cut it to length.

 

 

[953 nut 55,065]

On 2/17/2020 at 10:44 AM, pullstart said:

On 2/17/2020 at 12:08 PM, pullstart said:

I have some 3” wide flat stock that I could fill the whole length, actually creating that C channel Boxed channel gets my vote.

curb feelers?

You have curbs at your place?                        

 

[8ntruck 6,991]

I'm thinking you need a couple of cross members.  Those, along with the additional stringers you are adding will help increase the torsional rigidity - better cornering performance, ya know.