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Wheel Horse version?

Just throwing stuff out there because ya never know what triggers the light bulbs!

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19richie66
44 minutes ago, wallfish said:

Wheel Horse version?

Just throwing stuff out there because ya never know what triggers the light bulbs!

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That’s cool

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oilwell1415

I think you may have mentioned this in the video, but I couldn’t hear it very well on my phone with the background noise I’m in.  If you moved the hood forward you would gain a ton of seat space without having to add to the wheel base and adding a little tractor in front of the front wheels will help the proportions since you’ve go tractor sticking out behind the rear wheels.

 

For width, have you considered narrowing the bed?  Then you wouldn’t have to move the tires out so far to set it between them. I’m seriously considering taking a foot out of the middle of the little trailer I got, but that’s just so it will be easier to get in the back yard.

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1 hour ago, oilwell1415 said:

I think you may have mentioned this in the video, but I couldn’t hear it very well on my phone with the background noise I’m in.  If you moved the hood forward you would gain a ton of seat space without having to add to the wheel base and adding a little tractor in front of the front wheels will help the proportions since you’ve go tractor sticking out behind the rear wheels.

 

For width, have you considered narrowing the bed?  Then you wouldn’t have to move the tires out so far to set it between them. I’m seriously considering taking a foot out of the middle of the little trailer I got, but that’s just so it will be easier to get in the back yard.

 

I moved the hood forward after the video was taken and gained quite a bit of room.  At this point, I don’t think I need to stretch the frame any more, just figure out where the hood needs to be in relation to a bench seat.  I am pretty stuck on not hacking the bed for the time being.  We’ll see how it works out...

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SylvanLakeWH

I think multiple seating would be a plus given your intended uses and  family size...

 

Just a thought but why not 3 WH seats side by side on a beam going across? Outside two Act as fenders and take up the width of the bed...when you are alone or with others driver just uses the middle seat...

 

FYI - I just used standard door hinges on The WHrat WHrecker seat and it works perfectly...easy up easy down...

 

Just my :twocents-02cents:...

 

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953 nut
On 1/9/2020 at 2:30 PM, wallfish said:

Basic idea

 

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Do as the fish said, not as he did!          :hide:

With those tall tires on the front I think the one inch spindles are a must. Everything is fine rolling straight ahead, but when you turn sharp the forces a tall tire and wheel will exert are far greater than a smaller 8". Perhaps a "D" front axle or even a custom made set of "A Arms".

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Lee1977

You  don't need trailer hubs. If you have some rear hubs with bad key ways, bore them and press in some ball bearing. I'm sure there are a lot of bad hub around.

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1 hour ago, Lee1977 said:

You  don't need trailer hubs. If you have some rear hubs with bad key ways, bore them and press in some ball bearing. I'm sure there are a lot of bad hub around.

 

I thought about that last night, however the 15” wheels up front have different size inner and outer bearings that fit a VW beetle spindle.  I have a set of spindles from my buggy that happened to be a little bent so I won’t mind cutting them apart to build new tractor spindles.

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Lee1977

I wouldn't think a beetle had very large spindles there isn't muvh weight up front.  You only need to bore deap enought each side for the bearing and what ever clearance needed in the center.

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Pullstart

I realize I’m reaching very far into this build right now.  I have this drive idea in my mind.  I still want to have an automatic disconnect (centrifugal clutch) between the engine and transmission while not in motion.  If I build a special foot pedal motion control, I’d like to have the engine run at idle.  Push the pedal, it hits the throttle and the transmission motion control at the same time.  Off to the races we go.  I just don’t want one of my girls to be used to getting on and off their gear jamming tractor when in neutral, only to hop off this and it starts creeping away.

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wallfish

I'm interested. Do you already have a plan or just an idea in your mind? Reverse could be tricky

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Pullstart

I am going to attempt a set of wheel adapters tonight.  Scrap wood is cheaper and more abundant than 1/2” thick steel plate.  I’ll start with the wood.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, wallfish said:

I'm interested. Do you already have a plan or just an idea in your mind? Reverse could be tricky

 

Just the idea.  Some thoughts, but just in my mind.

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oilwell1415

Maybe I put too much value on my time, but why not just spend $50 on ready made wheel adapters?

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953 nut

@turnnleft has a centrifugal clutch in his side by side custom, but it ts a gear jammer. 

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Pullstart
On 1/16/2020 at 1:09 AM, 8ntruck said:

I did some trig. and came up with the following bolt center to bolt center distances per your sketch:

 

5 on 4 1/4 is 4.042

5 on 4 1/2 is 4.279

5 on 4 3/4 is 4.518

 

The angle you need to turn your rotary table between bolt holes is 72 degrees (360/5).

 

I worked in the OEM wheel industry for 40 years.  This is easy peasy stuff.

 

Hope it helps.

 

 

 

I built my jig out of wood for finding wheel centers!  Thanks again Bill!

 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, oilwell1415 said:

Maybe I put too much value on my time, but why not just spend $50 on ready made wheel adapters?

 

It’s Saturday night and I’m home alone.  Wife and one daughter in DFW / TX for a gymnastics meet, other daughter at a friend’s house.  Why not waste some time building cool stuff?

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SylvanLakeWH

Thanks for the pics!

I always learn from your posts!:handgestures-thumbupright:

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5 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

Thanks for the pics!

I always learn from your posts!:handgestures-thumbupright:

 

We’re all in this together!  Some of these things, I can act like I know what’s up.  Most the time, I’m just along for the ride too!

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Pullstart

First real attempt...  

 

 

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Pullstart

I kept plunging the cutter and rotating the table, until I was able to peel the center out last night.  Unfortunately the pattern is a bit large on the wheel side,  it it’s spot on for the hub.  I’ll keep playing around to figure out what needs to be done, then cut another piece.  The 1/2” plate I have ended up not being wide enough to use so I resorted to 3/8” plate.

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Pullstart

It must have been cross eyes and confusion last night, the adapter fit the hub and wheel just dandy!

 

 

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Pullstart

I smoothed the burrs on the hub clearance hole, chucked it up in the lathe and scribed a line around the outside of the piece.  Then I cut the big corners off so I can still drill, but it’s closer to being ready to turn down to a circle.

 

I’ll start the second piece in the mill, then set up for drilling, counter sinking, tapping and finish work on both pieces.

 

 

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ebinmaine

Niiice

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Tractorhead

Have you verified you markings with a circle ?

 

as far as i see on the pics, it is just one mark de-centered.

 

But anyhow, good job 👍

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