82Caddy 851 #51 Posted February 16, 2020 Updates: Good: -Vent runs through flooring Bad -Electric all goes through ceiling. Its above my knowledge base to sort out the electrical. Going to have to call an actual electrician to get this one sorted out. So some winning and some losing. Good news is the wall is down with just some wires and boxes dangling from the ceiling for now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,065 #52 Posted February 17, 2020 6 hours ago, 82Caddy said: Going to have to call an actual electrician to get this one sorted out. Best decision is to have a licensed electrician do the work and have a permit and inspections. Down the line if a problem causes a fire you have covered yourself. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickwhitt 4,584 #54 Posted February 18, 2020 DIY is a great thing until ambition exceeds ability. I'm doing as much of the labouring work as I can but still needed building inspection, steel beam calculations and a brick layer to sort sticking it back together properly. I could have done it all under the radar but would have had to brace myself if the wheel came off. Take your time and think things through and you will be fine. Mick 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82Caddy 851 #55 Posted February 19, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 6:36 PM, 953 nut said: Best decision is to have a licensed electrician do the work and have a permit and inspections. Down the line if a problem causes a fire you have covered yourself. Electrician came by yesterday and mostly laughed at my concerns/issues. Wires on the right are all 3 or 4 way switches for outlets or light fixtures. Was told to put them all in a junction box and tie them together from whatever switch they came from. Almost every thing that can be turned on by a switch can be turned on from 3-5 other switches as well, so removing the switches in the center of the room won't make any difference. Wires on the left are the power for the island outlets/dishwasher and garbage disposal. Electrician disconnected them from the breaker box and told me to call him back when I had the ceiling opened up in the basement to fish new wires though to re-power the island components. So no nearly as big of a deal as anticipated. Other weird thing is that those columns were not actually connected to the ceiling in anyway. Just dry walled around and stuck there. Once I cut the 2x4 on the outside it basically fell out of the ceiling with some wiggling. @953 nut wins the best guess for how the kitchen island is vented, no prizes for winning. Sorry, budget constraints. @rmaynard and @JERSEYHAWG / Glenn here's the venting for the kitchen sink that was being asked about at one point. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,783 #56 Posted February 19, 2020 Awesome news! Keep up the progress Reid! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19richie66 17,500 #57 Posted February 19, 2020 Always good when concerns melt away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,065 #58 Posted February 20, 2020 9 hours ago, 82Caddy said: no prizes for winning. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,427 #59 Posted February 22, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 10:36 AM, 82Caddy said: @rmaynard and @JERSEYHAWG / Glenn here's the venting for the kitchen sink that was being asked about at one point. Not sure how that works since where I come from, all vents must be on an upward slope. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,065 #60 Posted February 22, 2020 Drains are always nearly empty and the whole idea of a vent is to prevent the appliance drain from becoming air-bound. As long as the drain system has at least one 2" or larger vent above the roof line the air in the top of the main drain will allow the sink to drain just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82Caddy 851 #61 Posted February 22, 2020 18 hours ago, rmaynard said: Not sure how that works since where I come from, all vents must be on an upward slope. I don't claim to be a smart person but the witchcraft behind those vents do their thing is beyond my comprehension. It works and I’ve seen a ton of them on the internet so it must work. 🤷🏼♂️ Lots of stuff done at the house. Will update once I get to a computer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,336 #62 Posted February 22, 2020 Not sure how the codes are in your area but around here a Studer vent would have been used under the sink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82Caddy 851 #63 Posted February 22, 2020 Studor vents are not legal in Minnesota per google, I checked on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,427 #64 Posted February 23, 2020 18 hours ago, 82Caddy said: I don't claim to be a smart person but the witchcraft behind those vents do their thing is beyond my comprehension. It works and I’ve seen a ton of them on the internet so it must work. 🤷🏼♂️ Lots of stuff done at the house. Will update once I get to a computer. Yes, I have seen them as well. My plumber tells me that they are okay to do that way as long as there is nowhere in the vent system where water can accumulate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,783 #65 Posted February 24, 2020 22 hours ago, rmaynard said: Yes, I have seen them as well. My plumber tells me that they are okay to do that way as long as there is nowhere in the vent system where water can accumulate. Yep, that’s the key. I’ve done this in a basement under a sink in a pinch and it worked great as well. As long as the vertical climb above the sink is as high as possible, water won’t choose to travel that direction. Master Plumber rule #1 applies. If you’re not sure of the rest of the rules... poop runs downhill. hot’s on the left paycheck’s on Friday 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82Caddy 851 #66 Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, pullstart said: Yep, that’s the key. I’ve done this in a basement under a sink in a pinch and it worked great as well. As long as the vertical climb above the sink is as high as possible, water won’t choose to travel that direction. Master Plumber rule #1 applies. If you’re not sure of the rest of the rules... poop runs downhill. hot’s on the left paycheck’s on Friday Not going to lie, my current job is the only one I have ever had that pays on Fridays. Before that it was Tuesday's for years and cash under the table. Actual house work, start with this wall: and asked nicely to make it look like this one: Get handed this picture: Make it look like this: That is apparently an accent wall and will be painted a color called North Sea by Benjamin Moore. If you noticed in the first photo there was a ceiling fan. Apparently those are no longer acceptable (was news to me ) and need to be replaced with recessed lighting. The 18" of space in the attic gets really small really fast in the vaulted part of the ceiling. The two wires hanging down are for 2 more recessed light fixtures that I didn't have on hand because I was told only 4 lights so that's all I bought. The two lights closest the the accent wall are on one switch and the other 4 are on another. TV will be on the accent wall so that's why two switches for the lights. This dangly light will also be replaced with recessed light as well. Flooring company wasn't 100% truthful with us when we visited with them. The flooring in the dining/living/hallway/spare bedroom is not available as we were promised.So now that leads us into another problem for what to do in the kitchen when the new island arrived (shaped slightly different then the original one) since the plan was to continue the flooring into there and also finish the master bedroom too. Now it's looking like I'm going to have to pull up the flooring in the spare bedroom in the hope that I'll have enough of the right pieces to finish in the kitchen and around the island while finding a different flooring to put into the spare room and master bed. I think that's where I'm currently at. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,783 #67 Posted February 24, 2020 Fun stuff, huh? It’s looking great Reid! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82Caddy 851 #68 Posted March 17, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 10:57 AM, pullstart said: Fun stuff, huh? It’s looking great Reid! Remodeling is awesome! or something like that...we moved in on Saturday and are officially out of the in-laws. It's pretty awesome so far. With all of the sickness happening and events being canceled, the people doing the cabinet refacing and island build can get started on ours sooner with an anticipated install date of mid April now instead of Mid June, so that was an unexpected surprise. We also got on the install list for having a couple mini-split heat pump systems installed in the house to be more energy efficient and not use the baseboard heat as much for early April so lots happening. Still a ton for me to do though. Short list (in no particular order): -Paint trim and solid core doors -Install trim and solid core doors -Replace outlets with tamper proof ones because toddler -Build dining room table -Build pedestal stand for new washer and dryer and install those before this weekend. Current ones are stacked and will be donated to a family in need this weekend, there's nothing wrong with them just not the ones Alex wants to have. -Once new island is installed, plumbing, electrical, and flooring install. After island then it's waiting for counter tops to be installed so I can put up a back splash. I'm sure there is more I'm forgetting about. If you've made it this far, here are some pictures: How the accent wall finished up (tv is mounted now under that white box in the middle) Super code compliant kitchen... Current dining room table situation: 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,783 #69 Posted March 17, 2020 I made it that far! Pics are great, glad to hear some positive outcomes related to a sickness! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,427 #70 Posted March 17, 2020 Remodeling is fun. While the pole building is going up, the wife has me remodeling the basement bathroom. Cement board and drywall are up. Waiting on corners to dry so I can do the final skim coat. Meanwhile, the concrete is setting up in the pole building and I must get more pictures... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82Caddy 851 #71 Posted March 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, rmaynard said: Remodeling is fun. While the pole building is going up, the wife has me remodeling the basement bathroom. Cement board and drywall are up. Waiting on corners to dry so I can do the final skim coat. I forgot about the master bathroom. That's on the list to-do as well. It's just so far down the list I don't even consider it to be on the list. Not to mention, I'll have to figure out how to do a tile shower. That's a problem for another day 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82Caddy 851 #72 Posted March 25, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 10:02 AM, 82Caddy said: Short list (in no particular order): -Paint trim and solid core doors -Install trim and solid core doors -Replace outlets with tamper proof ones because toddler -Build dining room table -Build pedestal stand for new washer and dryer and install those before this weekend. Current ones are stacked and will be donated to a family in need this weekend, there's nothing wrong with them just not the ones Alex wants to have. -Once new island is installed, plumbing, electrical, and flooring install. After island then it's waiting for counter tops to be installed so I can put up a back splash. Been doing lots of stuff around the house now that I'm working from home. Amazing how much "extra" time I have now that I don't have an hour of travel time a day, and a hour of time time to get myself and the kid fed/dressed/out the door for daycare. Can eat breakfast while I'm "working". Trim and doors all have two coats of paint on them. Bad news is I ran out of door shims (aka I can't find the 3 packages I bought) and I'm not sure I'm up for leaving the house to get more. Maybe I'll have to improvise and see if I can reuse some of the old ones. I did manage to get one coat of paint on the window sill/frames. Still needs another coat for better coverage. Dining room table and desktop for my wife are both on hold due to not wanting to leave the house for more materials to build those Also go my "new" desk setup... Monitors didn't come with bases (because old IT leftover monitors from upgrades) and my dual mount from amazon hasn't arrived yet, so on the table tennis table they go. Works well enough for now. Plenty of space to have all my things. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82Caddy 851 #73 Posted April 3, 2020 So working from home was short lived...got the call on Wednesday that I've been placed on "essential on-call status". Basically, my lab is running on a skeleton crew and they call in staff as needed. My role was not directly in the lab (I could work there if necessary), but to be out gathering business to help the local community with their testing needs. No travel advised and paired with the stay at home orders means I'm on call for awhile. First time in my life I have not willingly been working. So what does that mean? More house projects! I have so far hung 4 of the 6 interior doors. Bi-fold doors are on the plan for today along with putting up as much trim as I currently have. I don't have enough trim to do the entire house, but I bought everything the local stores had a few weeks ago. Going to have to wait for another 11% sale at Menards and this madness to calm down before getting more there. I did pick up materials to get a dining room table built. So I'm building things with the materials I have on hand for now and spending lots of time with the kids. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
