Jennifer 1,877 #1 Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) I bought this off of Jake, 🤔 I think... lol what I am wanting to know if it’s fixable or just for parts.. I removed the cable and used it in one of my others that works. The problem with this, the teeth will not engage out all the way there for rendering this thing useless for me. It grinds the teeth, rarely would engage properly. Advice please! Edited November 16, 2019 by Jennifer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,985 #2 Posted November 16, 2019 Hence the reason they were abandoned fairly quickly by Wheel Horse. Sorry I don't know much about them to help but taking it apart and inspecting things is where I would start. I thing Joe Papke rebuilds those but not sure. Hopefully somone will along shortly that has answers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,076 #3 Posted November 16, 2019 If you can fix it up I have a NOS replacement Shankle steel cable. Let me know if you need it. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldiron613 583 #4 Posted November 18, 2019 I have one with these big oval openings that I bought from Jake this past year that works just fine but he included a specific/unique nut with mine. I don't believe this style Schnacke recoil was actually ever used on Wheel Horse tractors originally with the large oval openings. I know the teeth are different than the Schnacke's used on the WH tractors and the nuts are different than the nuts used on the original Schnacke recoils on my other WH tractors. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldiron613 583 #5 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) I just found Jake's original ad for his recoils which includes a picture of the correct nut for this style Schnacke. (See link below) Is your nut this style with the teeth? I just ask because the style WH originally used didn't have the teeth on the nut which could be your issue if you don't have the correct style nut. Edited November 18, 2019 by oldiron613 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,779 #6 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) On 11/15/2019 at 7:31 PM, wallfish said: Joe Papke rebuilds those but not sure. Yes he does have some parts and would probably rebuild one if you ask him. Here a little info on them if it helps. Might be kinda hard to read...sorry but someone may have it as pdf Edited November 18, 2019 by WHX24 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jennifer 1,877 #7 Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, oldiron613 said: I have one with these big oval openings that I bought from Jake this past year that works just fine but he included a specific/unique nut with mine. I don't believe this style Schnacke recoil was actually ever used on Wheel Horse tractors originally with the large oval openings. I know the teeth are different than the Schnacke's used on the WH tractors and the nuts are different than the nuts used on the original Schnacke recoils on my other WH tractors. I bought a couple myself one works great! Please don’t think I was bad mouthing Jake! That was not my intention.. just a bit of back ground.. Just wanted to know if it was something I did or if anyone had the same issue, how they fixed it. ETC. Yes I got the correct nut I got from Jake.. I not sure I explained the issue I am having. The teeth gear in the unit isn’t always spinning out far enough to engage properly to the nutt on the crankshaft Edited November 19, 2019 by Jennifer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Kuhn 1,554 #8 Posted November 19, 2019 Just saw this post. If you have another cable and handle send it to me and I'll get it fixed for you, shouldn't take any other parts to make it work. Pm me if you need my address. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jennifer 1,877 #9 Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Jake Kuhn said: Just saw this post. If you have another cable and handle send it to me and I'll get it fixed for you, shouldn't take any other parts to make it work. Pm me if you need my address. Thank you very much 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,945 #10 Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) The key to the gear teeth type Schnacke as opposed to the Hex nut grabbing three dog type is to get the right gap between the nut on the crank and the recoil teeth. It is a very small gap but it is needed to mesh the gears correctly! I have one of these style from Jake too. They work fine. I also have an original with the hex nut. Edited September 11, 2020 by Lane Ranger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jennifer 1,877 #11 Posted September 10, 2020 On 11/15/2019 at 7:41 PM, 953 nut said: If you can fix it up I have a NOS replacement Shankle steel cable. Let me know if you need it. Thank you but Jake fixed it for me already great guy! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jennifer 1,877 #12 Posted September 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Lane Ranger said: The key to the gear teeth type Schnacke as opposed to the Hex nut grabbing three dog type is to get the right gap between the nut on the crank and the recoil teeth. It is a very small gap but it is needed to mesh the gears correctly! I have one of these style from Jake too. They work fine. I also have as n original with the hex nut. We have both styles and I prefer the ones without the teeth! However the teeth are a great recoil as well and ours is working great after Jake fixed and explained how to line it up and install! Everything is a learning experience and thats just it! LOL.... We love horses and everyone here that helps us learn! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites