Retired Wrencher 5,442 #1 Posted October 23, 2019 What is the difference between a long and a short link? For the front plow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,288 #2 Posted October 23, 2019 The long link is a direct hard connection that can give you down pressure. The short link is made to be attached to a piece of chain so the plow can float. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,033 #3 Posted October 23, 2019 Click on the picture Garry 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,336 #4 Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: The long link is a direct hard connection that can give you down pressure. The short link is made to be attached to a piece of chain so the plow can float. Nicely done!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,442 #5 Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) On 10/23/2019 at 7:17 AM, ebinmaine said: The long link is a direct hard connection that can give you down pressure. The short link is made to be attached to a piece of chain so the plow can float. So Eric is the long link good for paved driveways? Edited October 24, 2019 by Retierd Wrencher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,288 #6 Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Retierd Wrencher said: So Eric is the long link good for paved driveways? Yeah you can use it just fine Gary. The only thing to remember is that the solid link will still let the plow float which means that the handle itself will float. Keep your left knee and left elbow out of the way. That actually comes in pretty handy if you have a small area of dancer snow or ice or whatever you want to scrape into. Just push down a little bit while you're going over that spot and then let go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,442 #7 Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Yeah you can use it just fine Gary. The only thing to remember is that the solid link will still let the plow float which means that the handle itself will float. Keep your left knee and left elbow out of the way. That actually comes in pretty handy if you have a small area of dancer snow or ice or whatever you want to scrape into. Just push down a little bit while you're going over that spot and then let go. Thanks Eric I have many plows but never had one I guess correctly installed. Sounds like 12" is the way to go. So by this diagram first hole top and bottom? Edited October 24, 2019 by Retierd Wrencher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,288 #8 Posted October 24, 2019 I hook mine to the outmost hole on the pictured number 19 lever. I attach that link directly to the plow frame. I don't use the lift pivot link that is in the picture above as number 27. That isn't even on my tractor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,442 #9 Posted October 25, 2019 Ok Eric I will give it a try Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHS 1,440 #10 Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 7:17 AM, ebinmaine said: The long link is a direct hard connection that can give you down pressure. The short link is made to be attached to a piece of chain so the plow can float. That’s what I have the power king for!! Heavy plow! @ebinmaine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,288 #11 Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, AHS said: That’s what I have the power king for!! Heavy plow! @ebinmaine Beautiful ride.... I have a 60" plow from @wallfish I'll be trying out this season on the Cinnamon Horse. With all the weights and "me" on it it's about 1300 pounds . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHS 1,440 #12 Posted October 26, 2019 @ebinmaine what’s the “normal” for a snowplow? 48”? That is a big plow! 60”! The power king is a 1965, with a Kohler 10hp, (no frills) no hydraulics, or 3 ph.. instead it’s got a drawbar..simple as can be! Oh the power king was free!👍😄 it had sat outside for 5 years and the brakes were locked up, the final drives he water in them, clutch was stuck in, and the coil was bad...it’s not bad when you can plow uphill without chains at 1/2 throttle! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,288 #13 Posted October 26, 2019 @AHS Normal for most is either 42 or 48. We have a 42, 48, and this 60. I used the 42 last fall. Bought and Switched to the 48 midwinter and that was better. It put the windrow of snow out past the wide tires I use. I'm hoping the 60 isn't too wide to push. With all that weight and chains it might be fine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHS 1,440 #14 Posted October 26, 2019 @ebinmaine I’ll have to measure my plow to see what it is, probably a 42”. Your gonna have to take a picture, the plow on the cinnamon!👍 im priming my snowblower, parts of it! Wheel horse paint is tough! Hurry, hurry, hurry!! Its going on the 312-8 this winter!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBlackston 298 #15 Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 6:17 AM, gwest_ca said: Click on the picture Garry This drawing says the short link is for 1973 and later. Anyone know why that is? I don't think the plow I picked up has either link and I will need to make one. If I'm going to make 1 link I might as well make both at the same time, but I'm curious if I will be able to use the short link on my 854? Or am I looking for different links all together for a 1964? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,033 #16 Posted October 27, 2019 The short link is used with item #27 which is the later mower deck lift arm. You don't have that in 1964. The 1964 blade BD-4264 uses a 5118 lift link. The 1965 blade BD-4264A uses a 5331 lift link. I do not know the differences. Item #18 below is S-52-5 top hair pin - 3/32" x 1-7/8" Item #17 below is S-52-12 bottom hair pin - dimension unknown Perhaps the welded in pins need to be a different diameter? Something is different. When I made some links I used about 2" bolts with the threads cut off for pins. Only the head was welded to the bar on the back side like in the illustration below. Then discovered the link needed a 1/4" offset if the pins were to sit square in their respective holes of the lift and plow frame. Ended up welding the pins to the straight bar in opposite directions to get the offset needed. Having the pins square minimizes wear. The holes in the pins for the hair pins were countersunk. When welded to the flat bar the hairpin holes are perpendicular to the flat bar for easier installation unlike the illustration. When installing the lift you know where the hair pins holes are and the hair pins can be installed blindfolded. Garry 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites