Burnerman 758 #1 Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) Figured I’d post pics of what the old girl is made of. My son pulled the engine and electrical system while it was still on death row by the crusher. I started going over the chassis in preparation for the reunion of the 2. I was able to get it to this point with 3 wrenches and 15 minutes. I pulled the pedals and pivots, cleaned up and straightened the pins, greased it up and they move like new. The brake shaft seal is a leaker. I hope I can find seals for this trans. The friction material is gone on the brake band. I’m hoping @rmaynard has a fix for me. I was able to easily get it all apart with just a handful of tools. Someone took good care of this tractor. It’s a very sturdy simple tractor. Edited September 25, 2019 by Burnerman 6 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,421 #2 Posted September 25, 2019 Great save there!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #3 Posted September 25, 2019 Hoping to be driving it this weekend. 😁 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #4 Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) yes you can get the seals at napa for the transaxle, change the axle seals too Edited September 25, 2019 by jabelman 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #5 Posted September 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, jabelman said: yes you can get the seals at napa for the transaxle, change the axle seals too Just tellem it’s a MF8E and I need seals? They’ll be able to look up part numbers or is there a source for the seal numbers online? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #6 Posted September 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Burnerman said: Just tellem it’s a MF8E and I need seals? They’ll be able to look up part numbers or is there a source for the seal numbers online? I wish it was that easy! I will dig out the numbers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #7 Posted September 25, 2019 I found the part number for the axle seals. But I know I need a new brake shaft seal and possibly the input shaft seal. I also need a closeup of how the parking brake lever is attached to the trans. Maybe @new2horses has one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
new2horses 287 #8 Posted September 25, 2019 Don't have a picture, but there is a parts breakdown for download on that other site. Input shaft seal, doesn't exist, as it is a pair of sealed bearings, the same ones used in the S/G. There is a little slinger behind them that will most likely be rusted beyond reuse or be destroyed during bearing removal, my advise don't sweat it. Oh yes, you have to open the tranny up to get at that one. If Bob can't help with brake material, I have some used assemblies available. If the axle seals are leaking, the most probable cause is worn axle bushings, it requires a total of 4 and they are 1" ID X 1.25" OD X 1.75" LONG. When I go to the shop later this morning I'll get the number for the break shaft seal. PM me for my contact info and we can talk. By the way, the steering wheel should be white and they are near impossible to find a replacement for. David 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #9 Posted September 25, 2019 I have the transaxle parts diagrams with numbers for these. I will check tonight 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,998 #10 Posted September 25, 2019 Man I love those executives!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,421 #11 Posted September 25, 2019 If Bob does not have that brake friction material, McMaster-Carr sells it by the roll. I have a role that is either 1.5 or 1.75 in wide. I can't remember but if I can help out I'd be happy to. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #12 Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: If Bob does not have that brake friction material, McMaster-Carr sells it by the roll. I have a role that is either 1.5 or 1.75 in wide. I can't remember but if I can help out I'd be happy to. Eric,The band is only 3/4” wide. I’d have to cut it lengthwise to fit properly. I have a pm out to Bob. Is the material flexible and do you think it could be cut? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,421 #13 Posted September 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Burnerman said: Eric,The band is only 3/4” wide. I’d have to cut it lengthwise to fit properly. I have a pm out to Bob. Is the material flexible and do you think it could be cut? I can't speak for what Bob sells but I'm sure it's similar to the stuff I have on hand. Mine can be cut and is quite flexible. Yes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #14 Posted September 25, 2019 Eric pm sent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,814 #15 Posted September 25, 2019 Just chiming in to follow Burner and let you know about this.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #16 Posted September 25, 2019 Took some steering wheel pics. Should I keep cleaning off the wheel? It doesn’t look tampered with. my son stopped after work and we freed up the stuck implement arm and he welded it back up. all fixed. I hope it can lift this deck when it gets gone over next. It’s a beast. Any ideas if the Is the same age? Anyone know of a source for a rubber engine mount? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #17 Posted September 26, 2019 Does anyone know how to properly install the jackshaft to transaxle belt? I got a 5/8x62” Kevlar belt and it looks like it’ll be a tight fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #18 Posted September 26, 2019 My son @JBall has been tracking down info and parts. We found sales brochures and manuals scattered around the net. From what I can determine this is kind of an every year Executive. The brake and clutch pedals are the early style and the parking brake is the rear hand lever. That seems to be the system used on the 1964 models. The steering wheel is white plastic with a black plastic triangle center cap. It’s been painted black sometime in its past. From what I can find that was used in 65 models. The mower deck is a MF-42E and again according to spec sheets online that deck wasn’t available until 1966. It has the optional upgraded seat and hubcaps although the rears are missing along with the original rims and tires. The dash layout is consistent with the later models with everything mounted on the dash. The earlier models seem to have the lighter mounted on the battery cover. My son was able to locate the manual for down load and a lot of my questions got answered. The transaxle needs 90w gear oil. I’m pretty sure there’s 30w in it now and that would explain the leak at the brake shaft. It also shows the hidden belt adjustment for the trans drive belt so I should be able to get the new belts on now. My son is hitting the McMaster Carr catalog to find an engine mount replacement and we’ve got a new neutral safety switch on the way. ( Thanks @new2horses for the heads up they’re still available). I’ve got some brake lining on the way to get the brakes working again. We wiped down the entire tractor with a mild soap/water mix and inspected everything for damage. We’re not repainting anything on the tractor. We plan on keeping it as is. We’re basically gunna just wipe it all down with a coat of light oil I think for now. Anyone have any ideas or tips? We’re not sure what to do about the seat yet. We need to see if a new plywood base can be made and the vinyl refastened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,421 #19 Posted September 26, 2019 Well on your way. That's excellent. Do you have the seat base? Can somebody make a pattern or something for you? lots and lots of woodworkers and fabricators on this site. Must be a way to make that happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
new2horses 287 #20 Posted September 26, 2019 Regarding the rubber engine mounts Massey Ferguson saw the error of using rubber and issued a service bulletin many years ago. In effect the bulletin did away with the rubber and replaced it with steel rounds. My advice would be to eliminate the rubber and replace it with steel. As I mentioned earlier the steering wheel is almost a unicorn, but is correct for your year model tractor, and yes it should be white and have the black center. The part number for the brake shaft seal is National 340387 and the input shaft bearings are: 6203's with seals. You have a great tractor there, well worth saving, like the others I will be watching your progress. Also happy to help where I can. David 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #21 Posted September 26, 2019 3 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Do you have the seat base? Can somebody make a pattern or something for you? Yes. There’s a few classic car upholsterers in the areas that we’ll reach out to. The plywood seat base is there but has dry rot on the edges so the staples have rusted and pulled out. The vinyl has only one tear in it but is very stiff. It can be used as a pattern if we go that route. It’s a very comfortable seat. 😁. 1 hour ago, new2horses said: Regarding the rubber engine mounts Massey Ferguson saw the error of using rubber and issued a service bulletin many years ago. In effect the bulletin did away with the rubber and replaced it with steel rounds. My advice would be to eliminate the rubber and replace it with steel. We may go this route. I put solid mounts on my C101 and they’re great. I could prolly space it out with heavy washers for now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #22 Posted September 26, 2019 It finally rained a little bit this afternoon so I finished washing up the old girl. I also installed my temporary brake setup. I contact cemented a piece on leather in the brake band I got the wheel cleaned up a bit more. Luckily whoever paint the wheel black did a crappy job and whoever manufacture it did a great job! My son stopped by after work and pulled the engine back out of his WH and reinstalled the MF mounts to the engine. I’m thinking this is a very low hour machine. The engine is in practically new condition as is the paint on the foot pedals. They’ve not been repainted either. There’s moto mower red peeking out. Lol. We are having some issues with belts now. I’m going to have to get an inch longer belt for the trans and see if that works. The 35” engine to jackshaft looks like it may be ok but the 62” blue Kevlar belt will not even come close to fitting. I cleaned out the fuel Petcock and tmw I’ll clean out the fuel tank. I hoping I don’t have to line it but we’ll see. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,421 #23 Posted September 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Burnerman said: cemented a piece on leather in the brake band Nice work!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burnerman 758 #24 Posted September 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Nice work!! Thanks Eric. I did this on my C101 when the band wore out many years ago. It worked pretty well for a season. We will be running her for sure this weekend!!😁😁 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #25 Posted September 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, Burnerman said: Thanks Eric. I did this on my C101 when the band wore out many years ago. It worked pretty well for a season. We will be running her for sure this weekend!!😁😁 just make sure that leather brake stops the transaxle completely before shifting. these aren't wh transaxle s where you can get replacement gears! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
