The "Colossus" project

[ebinmaine 67,527]

I've been getting a few things ready for this build over the last few weeks and today decided it's time to start a thread.

 

This will be a C-series ...

 

Named Colossus.

 

And for good reason.

It'll have the BIG Kohler twin K582 powerplant. 8 speed. Rear tires somewhere in the 27"-30" height range.

Fronts will likely be oversized as well but not sure yet.

 

It'll be approximately 5 to 6 inches taller, several inches wider, and longer (because of the battery and fuel tank location) than a normal C Series.

 

The rear fenders are from an early 60s Horse and have been modified to bolt to the flat step boards of a 68+ model.

 

The hood stand and fenders will need to be raised... I think... around 4" to clear the engine and tall rear tires.

I'll most likely use some 4" tall rectangular steel stock for that.

 

 

Here's a few pics of the engine coming out of the generator trailer frame.

 

 

 

I put my recently purchased chain falls to good use.

 

 

Out and hanging from the scale.

 

 

 

176 pounds!!

Now for comparison I weighed a 12 horse single. 138...

 

 

Here's a few pictures to show the size of the big twin compared to a 12 single.

 

 

The K582 measures about 20" across the front.

I'll need at least 24" front to back in the tractor so I can remove the oil filter which will be accessed right near the steering column/gear.

 

This engine will stick out from under the right side hood almost 4" after installation.

 

 

This hood will be removed in favor of a C Series hood but this is the chassis I'll be using.

I'll also swap the 4 speed to an 8 so I have a low for reverse.

The tiny little battery box and fuel tank shelf will be removed to make space for the engine.

 

 

Note the fenders

 

 

 

Not sure if I'll be able to use it yet... This axle was all custom made.

It's about 6" narrower than a stock C axle.

It would look cool but I'd rather have it wider for stability.... 

 

 

 

The battery and fuel tank will probably be moved to the front of the tractor.

Battery even with the frame and fuel tank above it.

The hood will be lifted straight up and removed instead of tilted forward.

I'll sketch up something and share that later.

 

Not positive on the color yet but leaning towards Rust-Oleum 2X Apple Red.

 

 

My lead dismantler and head paint specialist is working on painting the house for a few weeks so this'll be a long project. I'd be pretty happy to be able to use it for logging next season.

 

 

[SylvanLakeWH 25,576]

Sounds fun!

 

I will tag along...maybe some good ideas for my build...

 

Gotta get one of those chain hoists...guy I bought my roller from had an electric one... Hoisted tractor off the ground in two seconds...

[ZXT 2,401]

I'll be following this! Looks like a fun project and you'll have a one of a kind machine when you're done.

 

That K582 - was it part of a genset? i was under the impression that it would have had a tapered crankshaft.

[Pullstart 62,902]

So cool to see your dreams coming to a reality!

[Stormin 9,981]

 I'll be keeping an eye on this, Eric.

 

 You could widen that custom front axle easily enough if you want to. Save wasting it.

Edited September 1, 2019 by Stormin

[Tractorhead 9,064]

Big Brother is watching you.... . 😂

 

That Engine looks like a Monster.

Do you wanna help Toolcrib to pull his Tree out of Forrest?

 

 

but hey Eric,

the Trailer, you pulled the Engine out, seems to be the perfect „first Addon“ For Colossus!

thinkin on a log trailer or Timber trailer...

mabe with a crane.😉

[ebinmaine 67,527]

7 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

Gotta get one of those chain hoists

Yeah you do!

Soooooo handy.

 

I have an electric one around here somewhere that needs a rewire on the motion switch. My father used it in his garage to move carpet rolls.

 

 

7 hours ago, ZXT said:

That K582 - was it part of a genset? i was under the impression that it would have had a tapered crankshaft

In many cases that would be true.

 

This has a straight shaft.

It may have been in a piece of factory construction equipment or a "shelf motor"  sold directly from a Kohler dealer.

This one was originally painted yellow, then blue, and a tad bit of OD green.

 

 

3 hours ago, Stormin said:

widen that custom front axle easily enough if you want to. Save wasting it

I've had that same thought and likely will do so.

Possibly as much as a foot so I can have a front width around 40 to 42.

 

2 hours ago, Tractorhead said:

thinkin on a log trailer

That was the reason I bought it in the first place. The engine was just an afterthought.

 

[dclarke 4,032]

This'll be interesting, Eric. I'll be watching. 

[953 nut 55,259]

8 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

My lead dismantler and head paint specialist is working on painting the house for a few weeks

With Trina's time being occupied with house painting I can understand the necessity of buying a chain fall. She is your engine hoist too as I recall.             

[ebinmaine 67,527]

Here's a quick preliminary side view sketch of what I'm thinking.

Not to any scale and it will be taller than drawn I believe.

 

 

 

This is the fuel tank.

It's about 9" od x approx 20"? Long.

It'll hold around 3.25 gallons.

I have saddles for it.

 

 

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,527]

7 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

With Trina's time being occupied with house painting I can understand the necessity of buying a chain fall. She is your engine hoist too as I recall.             

Yes that's quite true.

[rjg854 11,367]

It will be quite interesting to see how this progresses and turns out.  And of course you must know along the way.

[Tractorhead 9,064]

Hey Eric, 

that Fuel Tank looks pretty Cool with the Rivets.

 

Give them all a Touch of Titanic

 

i guess it will be a improoved look, if Rivets are visible at the Front.

Edited September 1, 2019 by Tractorhead
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[ebinmaine 67,527]

7 minutes ago, Tractorhead said:

Fuel Tank looks pretty Cool with the Rivets

Here's a link to the thread about the tank.

 

Between this thread and talking to others I've concluded that it dates to the 1920s or 30s.

 

I love the look of it. It just begs to used on an old tractor.

 

 

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

This is gonna be cool!  I like the name...rolls easily off the tongue and is perfect for the size of the machine.  I’m sure there will be some challenges along the way to make everything function as it should, but this will be a fun build—no doubt!  That fuel tank is super cool and will be a neat centerpiece for the tractor.

[ebinmaine 67,527]

3 minutes ago, PeacemakerJack said:

 I like the name...rolls easily off the tongue and is perfect for the size of the machine.

 

 

I would like to take this time to give proper credit to the originator of the name.

 

Trina.

 

I told her what it was that I was looking to do and that I wanted an appropriate name for it. After a few minutes of brainstorming... 

That's what she came up with.

 

[Stormin 9,981]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

I've had that same thought and likely will do so.

Possibly as much as a foot so I can have a front width around 40 to 42.

 

With the extra weight and height that is a good idea. Be a tad more stable.  

[ebinmaine 67,527]

7 minutes ago, Stormin said:

 

With the extra weight and height that is a good idea. Be a tad more stable.  

That was my line of thinking as well

 

[Stormin 9,981]

Great minds and all that.

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

On 8/31/2019 at 10:07 PM, ebinmaine said:

I've been getting a few things ready for this build over the last few weeks and today decided it's time to start a thread.

 

This will be a C-series ...

 

Named Colossus.

 

And for good reason.

It'll have the BIG Kohler twin K582 powerplant. 8 speed. Rear tires somewhere in the 27"-30" height range.

Fronts will likely be oversized as well but not sure yet.

 

It'll be approximately 5 to 6 inches taller, several inches wider, and longer (because of the battery and fuel tank location) than a normal C Series.

 

The rear fenders are from an early 60s Horse and have been modified to bolt to the flat step boards of a 68+ model.

 

The hood stand and fenders will need to be raised... I think... around 4" to clear the engine and tall rear tires.

I'll most likely use some 4" tall rectangular steel stock for that.

 

 

Here's a few pics of the engine coming out of the generator trailer frame.

 

 

 

I put my recently purchased chain falls to good use.

 

 

 

Out and hanging from the scale.

 

 

 

 

176 pounds!!

Now for comparison I weighed a 12 horse single. 138...

 

 

 

Here's a few pictures to show the size of the big twin compared to a 12 single.

 

 

 

The K582 measures about 20" across the front.

I'll need at least 24" front to back in the tractor so I can remove the oil filter which will be accessed right near the steering column/gear.

 

This engine will stick out from under the right side hood almost 4" after installation.

 

 

 

This hood will be removed in favor of a C Series hood but this is the chassis I'll be using.

I'll also swap the 4 speed to an 8 so I have a low for reverse.

The tiny little battery box and fuel tank shelf will be removed to make space for the engine.

 

 

Note the fenders

 

 

 

Not sure if I'll be able to use it yet... This axle was all custom made.

It's about 6" narrower than a stock C axle.

It would look cool but I'd rather have it wider for stability.... 

 

 

 

The battery and fuel tank will probably be moved to the front of the tractor.

Battery even with the frame and fuel tank above it.

The hood will be lifted straight up and removed instead of tilted forward.

I'll sketch up something and share that later.

 

Not positive on the color yet but leaning towards Rust-Oleum 2X Apple Red.

 

 

My lead dismantler and head paint specialist is working on painting the house for a few weeks so this'll be a long project. I'd be pretty happy to be able to use it for logging next season.

 

 

 Eric that's not a horse that's a Clydesdale. Colossus the Clydesdale !! 

Im in. 

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

 Hundred bucks says you can pull some big wood with it ! 

 Y'all comes down to the one famous word traction !!!

Edited September 1, 2019 by The Tool Crib

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

Are you going to beef up the front end any as it becomes a worker.... front loader?

[ebinmaine 67,527]

7 minutes ago, The Tool Crib said:

Are you going to beef up the front end any as it becomes a worker.... front loader?

The axle that I'm going to be using is pretty well built.

 

I don't see this one being a front end loader at this time... But who knows...

 

[ebinmaine 67,527]

Trina and I dragged the chassis into the shop.

 

 

 

 

Now to begin disassembly on this unit.

 

[ebinmaine 67,527]

I don't have any wheels that fit the narrowed front axle so I got the narrow front axle off and installed a stock width one from a C-160.

Now it's a rolling chassis that I can move around.

 

Also got the 60s square hood swapped out for a 77 C-160 hood.

I'll swap the steering column/hood stand at some point as well.

I discovered tonight that the pillow block is moved towards the driver about 1.5 inches and the horizontal steering shaft which is connected to the fan gear has that much of an extension in it.

That's excellent for me because there is that much extra room for this engine.

 

 

 

Here's a picture that shows the width difference between the narrowed front axle and the stock one.

 

 

Also, I couldn't resist rolling it over under the chain Falls and setting the engine on it for just a minute.

This shot shows you approximately how much this engine is going to stick out on the left side.

 

 

Here you can see that although I will have plenty of room to change the oil filter, I will have to create alternate clutch linkage.

I don't see this particular tractor being used for any implements at this time and my current thought process is to use the lift lever as the clutch lever.

Plenty of room on the other side for the standard brake pedal.