Wheel Horse 3D 3,795 #1676 Posted February 24, 2022 23 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I'm hoping to have it drivable at least slightly before that... I'm also hoping that at that point I look as cool as this dude above surrounded by candles and old dusty papers... Did someone say "Grey" ????? I definately have the hair color down, but for some reason mine goes all Einstein crazy most of the time. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,454 #1677 Posted February 24, 2022 The fuel pump on the Kohler does work but it's a little "loose". Likely fine but I don't like it. I decided to go electric. 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #1678 Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: The fuel pump on the Kohler does work but it's a little "loose". Likely fine but I don't like it. I decided to go electric. Hi-tech. I like it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,454 #1679 Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Oldskool said: Hi-tech. I like it. Might well be the only "modern" thing on this rig. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,454 #1680 Posted March 5, 2022 Got a nice metal fuel pump relay. This'll fit in the build much better than a plastic housing relay. Thanks to @squonk for the part number! 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #1681 Posted March 5, 2022 What's the advantages of using a relay instead of just wiring it directly? Electronics is not my strong suit so just wondering if mine should get a relay 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,569 #1682 Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wallfish said: What's the advantages of using a relay instead of just wiring it directly? If the switch is heavy enough for the load a relay is not nessasary. Relay's are usually rated higher. Use a small load to close the relay switch, let the relay carry the heavy load. Edited March 5, 2022 by Achto 4 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #1683 Posted March 5, 2022 T 2 minutes ago, Achto said: If the switch is heavy enough for the load a relay is not nessasary. Relay's are usually rated higher. Use a small load to close the relay switch, let the relay carry the heavy load. That's kind of what I was thinking like a starter solenoid does but are those pumps too heavy of a load for a regular key switch? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,454 #1684 Posted March 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, wallfish said: T That's kind of what I was thinking like a starter solenoid does but are those pumps too heavy of a load for a regular key switch? The pump I'm using should be fine but I figured I'd give it a little insurance. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #1685 Posted March 5, 2022 Do they also work as a fuse too? I prefer less wire connections and devices if possible. But --- I have a parasitic drain issue on one and just can't seem to hunt it down. It seems to be one of the motors for the chute controls so maybe throwing a couple of relays inline should do the trick to disconnect them. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,305 #1686 Posted March 5, 2022 36 minutes ago, wallfish said: What's the advantages of using a relay instead of just wiring it directly? Electronics is not my strong suit so just wondering if mine should get a relay I don't know how @ebinmaine is wiring it in, but a relay can be useful in systems using safety switches so that nearly all of the load is removed from them. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,569 #1687 Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, wallfish said: Do they also work as a fuse too? They do not work as a fuse. But if you use a relay to send power to your shoot it would be a positive disconnect for those accessories. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,079 #1688 Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) Take apart one of those Indak key switches and look at the contacts in them. That's why I use a relay. Not necessary but I rather have the relay handle a constant load. Used to use relays in refrigeration equipment all the time. The thermostats would have these tinny contacts that were handling full compressor draw. And of course like everything else they are made cheaper now days. So after a few time where a stat would weld itself shut and ruin a cooler full of product we would wire a relay so when the stat closed it would just power the relay coil and the heavy contacts of the relay would handle compressor amps. Yes another item to fail and more cost but it was better than losing thousands of dollars of product. And we used good relays. No Dayton junk. Edited March 5, 2022 by squonk 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,454 #1689 Posted March 5, 2022 5 hours ago, squonk said: Not necessary but I rather have the relay handle a constant load That was my thought process as well. 7 hours ago, lynnmor said: I don't know how @ebinmaine is wiring it in, but a relay can be useful in systems using safety switches so that nearly all of the load is removed from them. Most likely I'll be running the low amp side off the ignition switch so the relay, and hence the fuel pump, is powered when the key's on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tractorhead 9,064 #1690 Posted March 6, 2022 17 hours ago, wallfish said: Do they also work as a fuse too? I prefer less wire connections and devices if possible. But --- I have a parasitic drain issue on one and just can't seem to hunt it down. It seems to be one of the motors for the chute controls so maybe throwing a couple of relays inline should do the trick to disconnect them. I would firstly check all the Switches they handle the motors, sometimes water or moisture can result in a light current draw, also too old grease. even the one in the motors - if so. A motor itself must drain current to work. If there are endswitches included in the motors like a wipermotor has, i would suspect them as a possibility cause. lots of Metallic wear in such motors over the years combined with worn grease into such motors can become a greasy conductive mixture like a resistor. the more the metal wear into this mixture, the faster it enforces to scrap more metalfragments and the less the resistance of this mixture, so the higher a current can be. If now the resistance is low enough, you have your Current drain possible. same can happen also in old switch knobs , switches or also ignition switches, even the work via Starter solenoid. a fuse just can be exchanged sensefully with a fuse of the same rating and they shall never exceed their wires max. Allowed current. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #1691 Posted August 31, 2022 Happy Anniversary!!! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #1692 Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Oldskool said: You called? Don 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #1693 Posted August 31, 2022 Bahahahaha good one @Snoopy11 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,454 #1694 Posted August 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, Oldskool said: Happy Anniversary!!! Ya Killin me Man! Ehhhhhh. It's only been 3 years. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,547 #1695 Posted August 31, 2022 3 Years… How romantic… @ebinmaine you takin’ her out on the town…? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,454 #1696 Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, SylvanLakeWH said: 3 Years… How romantic… @ebinmaine you takin’ her out on the town…? Ain't likely. I'm cheap. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,644 #1697 Posted August 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Ya Killin me Man! Ehhhhhh. It's only been 3 years. This day couldn't be overlooked. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,714 #1698 Posted August 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: How romantic… @ebinmaine you takin’ her out on the town…? WOAH... hold up... now it's @SylvanLakeWH with the visuals...? How the mighty have fallen... Don 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,454 #1699 Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Oldskool said: This day couldn't be overlooked. Much appreciated. 🤪 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,569 #1700 Posted August 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Ehhhhhh. It's only been 3 years. 3 years!! Congratulations!! Eric That's 2yrs & 1 month longer than my first marriage. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
