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701/702 Front Axle Spindles - Different?

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rmaynard

The 701 and 702 both use the same front axle, yet the part numbers for the spindles are different. Can anyone tell me the difference? Reason being, I'm looking for replacements for the 701 spindles.

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Lee1977

I know that the early round hoods had a 4 1/2" front wheel hub. Somewhere that change to a  3 3/4" front hub but I have nerve heard when that change took place. If any one has that information we would like to know.

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Achto
7 hours ago, rmaynard said:

Can anyone tell me the difference?

 

One difference that I noticed is that the 701 used a flat tie rod to connect the two spindles together and a single round tie rod with ball joints to connect to the steering arm. Much like the mid engine Suburbans of '60 & '61.

 

The 702 uses a tie rod with ball joints on each side to connect the steering arm to the spindles. Like all of the later model :wh: tractors.

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rmaynard
8 hours ago, Achto said:

 

One difference that I noticed is that the 701 used a flat tie rod to connect the two spindles together and a single round tie rod with ball joints to connect to the steering arm. Much like the mid engine Suburbans of '60 & '61.

 

The 702 uses a tie rod with ball joints on each side to connect the steering arm to the spindles. Like all of the later model :wh: tractors.

 

Actually, the parts diagram shows that the steering is the same on both. Below is a bad copy of an image from the 702 parts manual.

 

702 image

 

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701 image

 

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slim67

I know its an old thread but I haven't seen it discussed as to the front axle for the 61 and 62 tractors and the 603.It looks like the 400/500/401/551 front axle flipped upside down vs the later style on the 64s. If so why the 603s and not the other 63 models?

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wallfish

Never had any 63s so can't help there.

But I do know the 702 axle isn't just a flipped 61 axle. They appear the same but the pivot hole is moved to have a thicker amount of cast to support that flip. They are just a little bit different. That was just recently discovered by accident when the two were sitting next to each other. I can get you a pic if you want it

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slim67
9 hours ago, wallfish said:

Never had any 63s so can't help there.

But I do know the 702 axle isn't just a flipped 61 axle. They appear the same but the pivot hole is moved to have a thicker amount of cast to support that flip. They are just a little bit different. That was just recently discovered by accident when the two were sitting next to each other. I can get you a pic if you want it

I believe you ,just thought that was a quick fix to raise the tractors up a little higher. I’m guessing they used up the last of those axles for the 603 in order to get rid of them and since the 603 was a low cost unit. Got to admit the similarities though. If you have pics I would like to see them. Thanks 

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wallfish

Guessing the 603 probably has the 62 702 type axle then

Notice the pivot hole location difference to support the down force. The spindles on the 61axle are on upside down

(never mind the piece attached to the 61, turning into handlebars)

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slim67
6 hours ago, wallfish said:

Guessing the 603 probably has the 62 702 type axle then

Notice the pivot hole location difference to support the down force. The spindles on the 61axle are on upside down

(never mind the piece attached to the 61, turning into handlebars)

IMG_0156.jpg.40d802b85c2da5a8a9de56323a1b2054.jpg

I see what you’re talking about. Probably a minor change in the casting process? Interesting how the Ponds did things. Thanks for posting picture.

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