Tricks to remove deck pulleys?

[Burnerman 758]

I’m trying to salvage the spindles from what’s left of this deck. I got the torch, PB and a beer contemplating this task.  The only tool I don’t have is a fan hub puller but I’m not sure the set screws would grip the hub strong enough. Is there any tricks to this? 

Thanks in advance. 

[WHNJ701 4,165]

cut them out with scissors and get a tetanus shot!

[Burnerman 758]

7 minutes ago, jabelman said:

cut them out with scissors and get a tetanus shot!

I still need to get the pulleys off. Lol. Is there c clip under that pulley or is it just the top nut that keeps it all together? Can I used my press to push the spindles out? I can prolly wedge my bearing separator under the pulley to keep the pressure off the housing. 

This is my scrap/ training deck. My other deck is salvageable but I need to remove the spindles and cutting is not an option. 

Edited August 15, 2019 by Burnerman

[dalez 137]

Not sure but I think jableman meant to cut the deck away not the pulleys. Then take them to the bench and work on them.

[WHNJ701 4,165]

1 minute ago, dalez said:

Not sure but I think jableman meant to cut the deck away not the pulleys. Then take them to the bench and work on them.

yes thanks!

[Burnerman 758]

“Then take them to the bench and work on them.”

 Let’s say that’s  not an option. The ones on my salvageable deck are stuck on as bad as these. 

 

 

[The Tuul Crib 7,336]

Most often than not these pulleys are no good.  In that case the best thing I have found is to add heat to the pulley itself. Do not use a brass shaft to pound the spindle out it will mushroom trust me I've done this before. Or just soak and wait soak and wait.  Lots of patients !!

[daveoman1966 3,745]

For the center pulley, drill open the two holes to 3/8" dia.  Then fashion a 'J' hook from 3/8 (or 5/16) HARD rod to work in a 2-slot hub puller...

To avoid damage to grease zerk threads, us a flat puller socket instead of a pointed one....or be prepared to renew the threads.  Also...thread the spindle nut back on to be FLUSH with top of spindle shaft.  Put hooks into holes and draw spindle pulley off.  You MAY be able to do the same thing with the side pulleys...drill 2 holes 3/8" dia opposite of each other...    

[adsm08 2,022]

I see the pullies, where is the deck?

[Burnerman 758]

Daveoman66, that’s the kind of ideas  I was looking for! I’ll heat and soak a few days and I’ll get out the drill. I saw the holes in the center pulley and wondered why they’re there.👍👍

[peter lena 8,583]

agree with burnerman  on the bench work, do you have a portaband saw ? cut them out. another thing the best way is to use 2 angular pinch bars  on top of the spindle to deck bolts , under the pulley one on either side and push down . that equal downward thrust will release the pulley upward , done that a number of times. on the other hand my decks are solid . if you do manage to cut them out, you could secure the spindle in a vise , and then use the pry bar idea. that deck is scary , looks like a hasmat job, pete

[BOB ELLISON 2,980]

This is how I removed my pullys.

 

 

[peter lena 8,583]

on your 3 rd picture down, you can just see the head of the spindle mounting bolt, with 2  two  angular pinch bars , putting the pinch bar angles on top of either side mounting bolts will let you push down , the pinch bar will push against the lower center flange of the spindle ,  its strongest point , and give you the mechanical advantage. having just did this on two 42 " r/d decks  , it makes things easy . lubricate pulley to center shaft just prior to double pinch bar removal, all 6 of my spindle pulleys  came off easily . you have to  EQUALLY  PUSH UP ON  THESE PULLEYS , at the center of the pulley, not the outer edge. i am giving you the advise , because it worked for me, good luck with it pete 

[mrtbolt64 3]

I just went through this and one thing that did help me was placing a pipe wrench on the top of the pulley and using my impact gun on the bottom to get the pulley to spin. Once it starts to spin you can knock them out the bottom but like others mentioned, you may as well just cut them out of the deck and go to bench.

[Burnerman 758]

Update:

 I cut out the spindles from the deck and sent my son to the scrapyard. He came back with another 42”rd deck that’s in a lot better condition for $20. 

Hopefully it comes apart. 

[Burnerman 758]

23 hours ago, mrtbolt64 said:

I just went through this and one thing that did help me was placing a pipe wrench on the top of the pulley and using my impact gun on the bottom to get the pulley to spin. Once it starts to spin you can knock them out the bottom but like others mentioned, you may as well just cut them out of the deck and go to bench.

Aren’t the pulleys keyed on the shaft?

[953 nut 55,091]

7 minutes ago, Burnerman said:

Aren’t the pulleys keyed on the shaft?

Some from the early '80s were keyed, most are not.

[Burnerman 758]

I thought removing a stuck hub was bad. I’m really starting to hate the deck pulley design. Lol

[Burnerman 758]

Got the 2 decks stripped. I’ve got a pretty solid housing now. My old deck has keyed pulleys. Is there a cheap source for them? I’ll have to transfer my spindles to the donor. 

 My son broke a spindle shaft on the donor deck trying to get the blades off. Someone tried to cut a long time with the blades upside down. 

[daveoman1966 3,745]

EBAY...  $45 + for the pulley...  search" toro 106072"

 

[daveoman1966 3,745]

7 hours ago, Burnerman said:

I thought removing a stuck hub was bad. I’m really starting to hate the deck pulley design. Lol

When you had this PULLER with a lot of tension / strain on it, did you give the HEX end of the puller a good healthy WHACK with a BFH to break loose the pulley...  just a thot.  

[Burnerman 758]

20 minutes ago, daveoman1966 said:

When you had this PULLER with a lot of tension / strain on it, did you give the HEX end of the puller a good healthy WHACK with a BFH to break loose the pulley...  just a thot.  

Oh yeah! Lol. That’s when it started to bend the pulley. I gave it everything after that and separated  the top pulley. 

My older deck has keyed pulleys and they came off a lot easier but they’re rusted out. I need to use the keyed pulleys in the solid deck shell. 

35 minutes ago, daveoman1966 said:

EBAY...  $45 + for the pulley...  search" toro 106072"

 

That’s $90 plus I need the center pulley at $88 👀. This cheap deck is getting expensive. 😁 I need a cheaper alternative. 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,033]

The only thing missing from this service bulletin is Neverseize.

I don't know if the later pulleys have the same ID but if they do new replacements should be more economical without a keyway.

Garry

[Burnerman 758]

This is the one technique that works the best. It’ll only work on 83 and newer none keyed deck spindles. 

Thanks mrtbolt64!!

On 8/17/2019 at 7:26 AM, mrtbolt64 said:

I just went through this and one thing that did help me was placing a pipe wrench on the top of the pulley and using my impact gun on the bottom to get the pulley to spin. Once it starts to spin you can knock them out the bottom but like others mentioned, you may as well just cut them out of the deck and go to bench.