josephd2212 2 #1 Posted June 18, 2019 I just installed a new PTO clutch plate on my 414-8. I noticed, the roller bearings inside the pulley bell (if that is the right name) have a purple grease. What king of grease is recomended for use on those bearings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,336 #2 Posted June 18, 2019 Ive been using a synthetic grease . 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,583 #3 Posted June 18, 2019 do not over grease that bearing , agree with above on synthetic grease, excess grease will splatter and fly onto clutch area. i would lubricate any related lever point to enhance easy lever action , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,695 #4 Posted June 18, 2019 If you have some wheel bearing grease it will work fine, it's probable close to what it had originally. If I were buying some, I would buy synthetic. The bearing grease does not work hard in this application. The grease is working when the bearing is "idling" with no load. When you engage the clutch and put load on the pulley, the bearing becomes fixed so the grease is not doing any work under a "loaded" condition. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,336 #5 Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, oliver2-44 said: If you have some wheel bearing grease it will work fine, it's probable close to what it had originally. If I were buying some, I would buy synthetic. The bearing grease does not work hard in this application. The grease is working when the bearing is "idling" with no load. When you engage the clutch and put load on the pulley, the bearing becomes fixed so the grease is not doing any work under a "loaded" condition. You can get a new seal for the PTO bell at napa . Not sure of the part number off hand. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,037 #6 Posted June 18, 2019 Napa # 14807 Not stocked in many wharehouses. My DC has 1 as does about 8 others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,336 #7 Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, squonk said: Napa # 14807 Not stocked in many wharehouses. My DC has 1 as does about 8 others. They actually come from the manufacture here in Tennessee three hours from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc724 925 #8 Posted June 19, 2019 I used high temp grease with a 500F drip point. Although the bearing does not do much work, it gets mighty hot since it is on the crank. High temp grease is red in color. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephd2212 2 #9 Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 10:34 AM, The Tool Crib said: You can get a new seal for the PTO bell at napa . Not sure of the part number off hand. the PTO bell has a seal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,336 #10 Posted June 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, josephd2212 said: the PTO bell has a seal? Yes and lm trying to find the part number unless someone else does first Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #11 Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) I have been using the Valvoline Crimson Heavy Duty Multi-Purpose Grease. It works really good! it seems to hold up well to. https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-crimson-2-grease-141-ounce-vv70124/10088125-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=10088125-P&adtype=pla&product_channel=online&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIh8nem_T34gIVDNNkCh05Ew2PEAQYASABEgIw4vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Edited June 20, 2019 by bottjernat1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,672 #12 Posted June 20, 2019 WH 6663 CR 14810 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephd2212 2 #13 Posted June 21, 2019 I will have to take mine back apart and check to make sure that seal is in good condition. When I removed it, to replace the clutch plate, I did not notice any issues with anything else. I just saw the purple grease on the bearing, inside the pulley. Didn't look like there was much left, and it may have never been greases in its life. I'll probably just put a small glob inside and put it back together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc724 925 #14 Posted June 23, 2019 After I took my first PTO bell apart and found the needle bearing to be bone dry, I decided it needed to be cleaned and lubed. I took out the thrust bearing (held in with a snap ring and light press fit) and cleaned out the needle bearing with kerosene. Then I took new grease and forced it between the rollers with my finger. Not too much as Peter said lest it get thrown out when the bell spins and gets all over the friction disc. After my success on the first one, I did them all. Bearings are engineered to last a long time but many of the machines we have are 30-40 years old (some even older). I doubt the original WH designers ever dreamed that so many of their products would still be around today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
