New Horse (and other stuff) stable... coming soon

[ebinmaine 67,274]

As I stated in a thread begun by @JCM Jim, I ordered a 10 x 20 portable garage.

Trina and I decided on placement of it and started clearing the area a bit tonight.

We'll be leveling out the ground as best we can and laying down Typar or Tyvek as a vapor barrier and covering that with 3/4 crushed stone.

We're going to have a path down both sides at least 3 feet wide for snow clearing.

 

There should be enough room inside of it to keep all of our Horse herd, log splitter, snowblowers, lawn mower, whatever other small engine stuff we have and some yard maintenance type things like rakes or shovels or whatever...

 

The front door will open between these two bigger trees.

 

 

This is where the side will go...

 

It will be just past this rock pile.

 

[19richie66 17,500]

Good for you Eric(and Trina) 😁 that will make working on them even better. I can’t wait to get a shop.

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,300]

  Nice! You can never have enough storage.

  I built my 12x20 portable on a 12x20 pressure treated deck. Bolted the framework down (not exactly portable anymore)

[JCM 9,130]

If you need an extra set of hands when assembly time come's, just holler.

[WHNJ701 4,165]

I have 2 of them, if you plan on keeping it awhile call shelter logic and get the 10 year cover, it's well worth it.  I added sticks of emt along the roof to help with the snow, one is from 07 it's on its 3rd cover and I even moved it to another property.  I never had an issue with vapor at my other property. my new place was terrible last year, this year I gotta pull out the stone and add a tarp to the bottom.  or quit being cheap and put a building up

[ebinmaine 67,274]

7 hours ago, JCM said:

If you need an extra set of hands when assembly time come's, just holler.

Mighty generous Jim.

We "pay" people with good food and bad company. 

[ztnoo 2,298]

12 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

laying down Typar or Tyvek as a vapor barrier

 

Eric,

Tyvek isn't actually a vapor barrier. It is what is known as a house wrap. Its external surface prevents large water droplets from entering, but its design allows microscopic moisture to past through it to allow a house to "breath" and excess moisture created inside a structure to pass through the wall structure.

If you want a true vapor barrier, get some 4 mil or heavier plastic to put down as a "groundcloth" before overlaying it with stone to prevent soil moisture from coming up from the ground into the interior as the structure heats up on sunny and warmer days.

Edited April 18, 2019 by ztnoo

[ebinmaine 67,274]

3 minutes ago, ztnoo said:

 

Eric,

Tyvek isn't actually a vapor barrier. It is what is known as a house wrap. Its external surface prevents large water droplets from entering, but its design allows microscopic moisture to past through it to allow a house to "breath" and excess moisture created inside a structure to pass through the wall structure.

If you want a true vapor barrier, get some 4 mil or heavier plastic to put down as a "groundcloth" before overlaying it with stone to prevent soil moisture from coming up from the ground into the interior as the structure heats up on sunny and warmer days.

I have a tarp here that I can check the size of. Perhaps we will repurpose that... Thank you!

 

I knew one of those was breathable but I couldn't remember which. Are they both?

[ztnoo 2,298]

I have no experience with Typar. It apparently came to the market sometime after I quit working in the residential construction trades.

A brief, quick read tells me Typar essential works the same as Tyvek.

I lost track of how many thousands of feet of Tyvek I helped install.

The real 'biggie" positive aspect of using it here in the midwest with lots of open farm country with lots of high winds in the winter, was the air infiltration prevention it afforded.

It made a huge difference in eliminating drafts and air leaks in walls.......which in turn made homes easier and less expensive to heat because of reduced air infiltration.

 

If you aren't sure about the moisture resistance of the tarp you have, you could always treat it with something like Thompson's WaterSeal before you place it on the ground. You could treat both sides to increase its effectiveness.

[Lee1977 6,642]

6 mil plastic is what you need for a vapor barrier.

[ebinmaine 67,274]

We worked on clearing the trees a bit this morning until the sprinkles turned to rain drops.

 

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,274]

Somebody put a stump in my way...

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,274]

Been Workin at digging or raking a bit every evening.

A little here and a little there.

The whole area has been raked at least twice. We're scraping some of the old forest floor moss and peat and getting down to the dirt.

Trying to clear around the stumps and roots so as to get a chain around them when I get Cinnamon Horse back to life.

Here's a pic of the current state.

 

[ebinmaine 67,274]

The two stumps in the above pic from the foreground are now gone.

Had to take an easy pace today due to fighting off a cold.

Used the cinnamon horse to help with one.

Had to try a couple different angles and kept making cuts with the Sawzall. Also pulled some decent sized stones.

 

 

 

 

 

[ztnoo 2,298]

Must be summer in Maine now.

I see you have shorts on and are wearing a sock hat.

And you say you are nursing a cold......

Something doesn't compute, Doc.  

[ebinmaine 67,274]

1 minute ago, ztnoo said:

Must be summer in Maine now.

I see you have shorts on and are wearing a sock hat.

And you say you are nursing a cold......

Something doesn't compute, Doc.  

That is a clear indication that I have no common sense.

[Stormin 9,981]

7 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

That is a clear indication that I have no common sense.

 

Suits you Ed. You look younger than in your avatar photo.

[JCM 9,130]

Glad to hear that you went with the Sawzall method on the stumps,I didn't find it odd that you had shorts on this time of year,that friend of mine in the Brook Trout picture wears shorts when he is out snowblowing his driveway and he lives in Mass, hearty bunch us New Englanders, Take care of that head cold.

[ebinmaine 67,274]

1 hour ago, JCM said:

Glad to hear that you went with the Sawzall 

For the record I did also use a 16 lb sledge hammer. Because it's.... It's a 16 lb sledgehammer. Why wouldn't I use it??

[ebinmaine 67,274]

Well we've been working on the chicken coop trying to get that finished up for the last month or so.

Now that that is all done and the chickens are six or seven weeks old and they are in the coop and the run and they are very happy...

 

I can put my focus back on getting this portable garage put up.

 

Over the last few days I've been working on chipping away at a few stumps. two or three days ago we got a new pressure washer so I used it to rinse a lot of the mud out away from the biggest stump.

 

 

 

 

Today I was able to spend some time moving about three loads of stone.

I realized this evening that I have forgotten to put the tarp down below the stone but that's okay. I'll just spread out the stone that's out there and put the tarp on it and then put more stone on top. No worries.

 

 

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,274]

Over the last couple of days we have laid out the tarp and staked it down.

We followed that by moving 10, 10 cubic foot loads of stone under the tarp and in front of it to make the ramp and over the top of it.

The dog in the pictures is to give you an accurate scale of the size of the area that we are working with. And she's cute.

 

Here's some pics.

Taken by Trina.... Of course.

 

These next two are where we were when we started tonight. The brown area to the right hand side is the tarp that is left to be covered.

 

 

The dark spot at the furthest point away from the camera is the wet stone from underneath the bottom side of the pile.

 

 

 

This... Well, this is a dog.

[ericj 1,578]

Eric , a loader would have darn near payed for it's self for this project alone. I don't know what I would do with out mine at times. I about had heart failure when the loader broke last week, wasn't sure I was going to get it fixed in time to use at the show.

 

 

 

 

eric j

[ebinmaine 67,274]

1 minute ago, ericj said:

Eric , a loader would have darn near payed for it's self for this project alone. I don't know what I would do with out mine at times. I about had heart failure when the loader broke last week, wasn't sure I was going to get it fixed in time to use at the show.

 

 

 

 

eric j

Oh yeah I agree....

We are both a bit twisted and actually enjoy the hard work but there's a time when the speed and efficiency plays a big part.

Maybe once I get a welder goin'....

[ebinmaine 67,274]

On 4/17/2019 at 8:36 PM, JCM said:

If you need an extra set of hands when assembly time come's, just holler.

 

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This guy.... Pretty awesome!

 

Jim @JCM drove up and gave me, Trina, and her mom a hand with the assembly process today.

Here's Trina's mom, Jim (on the 867) and me.

 

 

It's all up and filling fast.

 

 

View from the driveway end

 

View from the woods end

 

 

This evening we cleared another path through the forest from the back of the portable garage down over the hill to the existing forest path. 

 

[JCM 9,130]

Picture perfect day, no black flies , nice breeze and 3 great people to work hand in hand with. First time I have driven a WH tractor without footrests and boy is that tractor quiet on engine crank start up. Thank you Trina for the test drive. Overall a GREAT DAY thanks guy's.