CASE 448

[BPEisenhower 535]

Good afternoon all!! Windy and rainy here in Illinois but a small patch of sun managed to find me today. I have here a CASE 448 with 18 HP Onan. Never had one but heard when it breaks down, they are very expensive to resurrect. Has hydraulic tiller and a mowing deck that was used twice. Filled with gas and runs good with no problem. Tiller does work and deck is not locked up. Undecided about it's life since it was a free for the taking. I know it would look better painted and think I might paint it like my 970 farm tractor. Orange wheels and frame, Desert Tan for hood and fenders. Too many irons in the fire due to hauling garbage and farming between rain drops. What to do..... Thanks for reading!

[ebinmaine 67,421]

Decent-looking machine as it sits. Could be a potential Rockstar with fresh paint.

[BPEisenhower 535]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

Decent-looking machine as it sits. Could be a potential Rockstar with fresh paint.

I need to read up on Onan. And no idea if these tractors are reliable. I'm used to WH and know parts are available but after using CASE tractors for years, certain parts you figure are available, are not and far between. 

[Achto 27,565]

3 hours ago, BPEisenhower said:

Undecided about it's life since it was a free for the taking.

 

Congratulations on a super score!!!!!

 

That is a very desirable tractor in the Case GT world!! Those were built in Winneconne WI, only about 20 miles from my home. The Onan in there is like an Onan in a , good smooth power with great torque. Down side of an Onan is, Cummins dropped them completely. No more parts being produced so it's down to NOS & the few after market parts. Which makes parts very expensive.

 

First off the tractor is a high wheel. Ka ching $$$$!! I know of non-running junk high wheels that have sold for $500+, yours runs. I also think that the all hydro drive implements was a one year thing, could be wrong on that.  @PeacemakerJack might be able to correct me on that if I'm wrong. He has relation that is all about Case GT's.

Edited April 12, 2019 by Achto

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

Thanks Achto for bringing me in on this one.  My cousin Mike has about 28 Case GT’s.  He knows them inside and out like many guys on here are familiar with their horses.  He just finished the resto on this Golden Demo tribute tractor. 

 

If this were an actual Demo, it would be an extremely rare machine.  His buddy didn’t have one and so he commissioned Mike to build him one.

Mike’s work is first class and he is a stickler for the details much like Achto!

 

The first garden tractor that I purchased was a 1980 small wheel Case from one of my uncles.  

 

It has been in the family since 1986 and is a Case 224.  Someday my daughter and I will refurbish it together.  They are stout little machines.  The only thing that is frustrating to me is that the HyDrive system is not infinite speeds like a hydrostatic drive.  I’ll have to check with Mike but I’m pretty sure that hydraulic driven attachments were available over a multiple year span.  I know that Mike has owned hydraulic mower decks, tillers, hydro cutters, etc through the years.  

 

You got a great deal on that Big Wheel Case—have fun with it!

Edited April 12, 2019 by PeacemakerJack

[WHNJ701 4,165]

they are tough tractors, I have the smaller version an early 70s 220.  which is on the list for a repaint.  the tractor was in my wife's family for many years.  

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496]

I always wanted a big wheel 444, 446 or 448 or the Ingersol equivalent.  Just hadn't found one that I could afford at the time.

[19richie66 17,500]

Wish I still had mine. It was a “Black Knight “ demonstrator. Dad said sell it, he bought more horses.😂

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496]

BTW, you can still buy a new big wheel Ingersoll.  Eastman Industries took them over after Ingersoll went bankrupt.

http://www.eastmanind.com/INGERSOLL/tabid/186/Default.aspx

Ingersoll Pricing and Attachment Chart 121814.pdf

Ingersoll Attachments 2009-10.pdf

Ingersoll Tractor 4000-4200Series.pdf

[BPEisenhower 535]

6 hours ago, PeacemakerJack said:

Thanks Achto for bringing me in on this one.  My cousin Mike has about 28 Case GT’s.  He knows them inside and out like many guys on here are familiar with their horses.  He just finished the resto on this Golden Demo tribute tractor. 

 

If this were an actual Demo, it would be an extremely rare machine.  His buddy didn’t have one and so he commissioned Mike to build him one.

Mike’s work is first class and he is a stickler for the details much like Achto!

 

The first garden tractor that I purchased was a 1980 small wheel Case from one of my uncles.  

 

It has been in the family since 1986 and is a Case 224.  Someday my daughter and I will refurbish it together.  They are stout little machines.  The only thing that is frustrating to me is that the HyDrive system is not infinite speeds like a hydrostatic drive.  I’ll have to check with Mike but I’m pretty sure that hydraulic driven attachments were available over a multiple year span.  I know that Mike has owned hydraulic mower decks, tillers, hydro cutters, etc through the years.  

 

You got a great deal on that Big Wheel Case—have fun with it!

Thank you very much for the photos! That is exactly what I was thinking about for paint scheme. Every tractor I have got so far has been free since people are rolling them into my roll off boxes. Amazing what is being thrown out when it's either rusty, dusty or old. This person that threw this away said it was out-dated and of no use. All I did was put in fresh gasoline and jumped off my roll off. I think if I keep finding tractors, I will be giving them away to a good home

 

[BPEisenhower 535]

5 hours ago, T-Mo said:

I always wanted a big wheel 444, 446 or 448 or the Ingersol equivalent.  Just hadn't found one that I could afford at the time.

The next one I find, it's yours!! Can't keep them all myself!

[BPEisenhower 535]

18 hours ago, Achto said:

 

Congratulations on a super score!!!!!

 

That is a very desirable tractor in the Case GT world!! Those were built in Winneconne WI, only about 20 miles from my home. The Onan in there is like an Onan in a , good smooth power with great torque. Down side of an Onan is, Cummins dropped them completely. No more parts being produced so it's down to NOS & the few after market parts. Which makes parts very expensive.

 

First off the tractor is a high wheel. Ka ching $$$$!! I know of non-running junk high wheels that have sold for $500+, yours runs. I also think that the all hydro drive implements was a one year thing, could be wrong on that.  @PeacemakerJack might be able to correct me on that if I'm wrong. He has relation that is all about Case GT's.

Thank you so much for the input. I'm certainly glad you and many other people have a wealth of knowledge to dispense. I'm looking for all advice on these machines since Onan and Case/ Ingersoll elude me

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

16 minutes ago, BPEisenhower said:

...Amazing what is being thrown out when it's either rusty, dusty or old. This person that threw this away said it was out-dated and of no use...

That is the sad irony of the “throw away” society we live In today.  I almost got rid of my Case 224.  After a couple of years of use and having to fix a few things on it, I went out and bought a new box store cheapo lawn mower. I was “tired of fixing the old junker”, at least that was my mindset at the time.  My Case had a snowthrower with it and that was what kept me from unloading it at the time (this was before I got into the hobby).  I’m so glad that I didn’t get rid of it! After about 5 years with the cheapo, I realized that it was about the worst $2200 I had ever spent.  I began the search for something old and well made.  Came across my diesel Cub and ever since then, I have a whole new appreciation for all things old that are well made.  I’m amazed how machines like my son’s 854 are basically all original, more than 50 years old and still fully functional!  

 

Keep on rescuing those vintage tractors.  As a matter of fact, you should start a thread in the off topics of your finds...

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,496]

16 hours ago, BPEisenhower said:

The next one I find, it's yours!! Can't keep them all myself!

Right now I would almost trade two Wheel Horse 953s and a Cub Cadet 100 for a good running Case big wheel like that one.

[ebinmaine 67,421]

16 hours ago, BPEisenhower said:

The next one I find, it's yours!! Can't keep them all myself!

 

Makes me wish I lived a bit closer....

 

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On 4/11/2019 at 5:22 PM, Achto said:

 

Congratulations on a super score!!!!!

 

That is a very desirable tractor in the Case GT world!! Those were built in Winneconne WI, only about 20 miles from my home. The Onan in there is like an Onan in a , good smooth power with great torque. Down side of an Onan is, Cummins dropped them completely. No more parts being produced so it's down to NOS & the few after market parts. Which makes parts very expensive.

 

@PeacemakerJack

 

If Cummins "Dropped" Onan completely and no parts are being produced, how do you explain the parts pictured here? Please note the dates on the labels are all less than 12 months old. These are not NOS, New Old Stock parts. Several, for example, the 102-1275 oil pan gasket was packaged April 9th, 2019, eleven days ago! Or the 309-0641-18 oil switch packaged on March 21st 2019, less than a month ago! Very common Onan head gasket, 110-3181 used on CCK, B43, P218 etc. engines is dated January 29th 2019.

 

Also very common coil, 166-0772 found on most Onan twins from the 70's and early 80's with points ignition. Packaged on August 20th, 2018. The 166-0820 coil used on all Onan opposed twins with electronic ignition, dated January 4th 2019.

 

Maybe somebody can contact Cummins and tell them they "Dropped" Onan? It would appear they did not get the memo? :)