bottjernat1 2,190 #1 Posted April 2, 2019 Hello everyone! I was going to do this last year but had to many things going on. I want to change the filter and fluid in my daughters 1969 charger automatic. after i get the messed up plug out it is worn down. it goes forward fine but creeps going backwards. i figure with a drain and new oil and filter she will be good. Then to figure out how to adjust it. It wont stay at one speed the lever jumps on ya. I cant find the pdf file. Thanks for the help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,885 #2 Posted April 2, 2019 Download operator manual and do the neutral adjustment. If the motion control lever moves too easily you can tighten that up the friction adjustment is in the manual also. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #3 Posted April 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Download operator manual and do the neutral adjustment. If the motion control lever moves too easily you can tighten that up the friction adjustment is in the manual also. awesome thanks a million! Will check it out i will update when i get to it. working on a 317 deere right now. got it in pieces i put the kt17 kohler back in now i working on the carb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #4 Posted April 2, 2019 also regular atf according to the manual it says type a fluid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,885 #5 Posted April 2, 2019 Modern equivalent is the Dex/Merc ATF 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,762 #6 Posted April 2, 2019 Did the motion control lever jump around before...? If so, there MAY be an issue of a broken weldment on the shaft that the friction components fit on. Look a the left side of the hoodstand and see if this weld is broken. This pic is a C-160 but the suspect weld is the same as the Charger. Here are the components of the friction motion control system. DO NOT lube anything here...just clean out any old oil / grease or debris. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upstate yank 219 #7 Posted April 3, 2019 8 hours ago, bottjernat1 said: Hello everyone! I was going to do this last year but had to many things going on. I want to change the filter and fluid in my daughters 1969 charger automatic. after i get the messed up plug out it is worn down. it goes forward fine but creeps going backwards. i figure with a drain and new oil and filter she will be good. Then to figure out how to adjust it. It wont stay at one speed the lever jumps on ya. I cant find the pdf file. Thanks for the help! not to boost here but i as well have a charger 10 auto matic with the HH-100 ;this is my favorite one out of the other 8 horses in the barn and yes after adjusting the motion from forward and reverse once the pedal is down it will stop on a dime and yes i did drain the old fluid out of the transmission plus a new filter which i change each year 'honestly i wouldn't trade it for any thing plus the mower cuts so fine ' to adjust the creep it is really easy 'just my thoughts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #8 Posted April 3, 2019 13 hours ago, daveoman1966 said: Did the motion control lever jump around before...? If so, there MAY be an issue of a broken weldment on the shaft that the friction components fit on. Look a the left side of the hoodstand and see if this weld is broken. This pic is a C-160 but the suspect weld is the same as the Charger. Here are the components of the friction motion control system. DO NOT lube anything here...just clean out any old oil / grease or debris. I will check that out to see. it has been this way ever since my late dad owned it that i know of. Thanks a million for the info! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,762 #9 Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) The nylon cam MAY also be worn out or broken... I have new one. Part # 5996. It is part of the motion control linkage... Edited April 3, 2019 by daveoman1966 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #10 Posted April 3, 2019 So this will be my first time changing the tranny oil and filter. Should this be a simple drain and fill or am i going to need to call a horse buddy to help. I can do this myself correct? Im not going to need to like clear out all the lines and other stuff? Thanks for all the help folks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,885 #11 Posted April 3, 2019 If the fluid looks clean as it drains that is all you need to do. If you have a cloudy soupy mess then you may have to change it more than once. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bottjernat1 2,190 #12 Posted April 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, pfrederi said: If the fluid looks clean as it drains that is all you need to do. If you have a cloudy soupy mess then you may have to change it more than once. if its a mess is there something i may add to it to clean? like when i changed the engine oil in my 2002 durango last year it has 210,000 miles and thought it was a good time to run sea foam threw her maybe clean up the insides a bit. LOL im sure sea foam is not recommended but is there something like that i can do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,885 #13 Posted April 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, bottjernat1 said: if its a mess is there something i may add to it to clean? like when i changed the engine oil in my 2002 durango last year it has 210,000 miles and thought it was a good time to run sea foam threw her maybe clean up the insides a bit. LOL im sure sea foam is not recommended but is there something like that i can do? There is no cleaner. Change fluid and filter run it for a few minutes and repeat until it is clear. The alternative is to disassemble the unit clean each part and put i back together. Hydros are not like the gear drives that get a lot of water in them making chocolate milk out of the gear oil. most hydos are pretty clean. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,463 #14 Posted April 4, 2019 One tip - make certain to clean off the area above/around the oil filter before you take it off. Any dirt that gets into a hydro drive system is a death sentence to the internal parts - treat it like brain surgery or you'll regret it later. Sarge 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites