Spring Project 101

[Herder 2,354]

Here it is a 79 C-101.  I took this one in on trade, a friend of mine had two WHs a 1983 310-8 and this one.  Both sat in storage for many years and where non running at the time.  The 310 was in exceptional condition and was an easy project.  I was happy to get it running for him and even got to use it for a bit, it was hard to see that one leave. Needless to say he's now hooked!  Well this one had blown-up years ago and was considered to be retired.  It stayed behind and finally I hailed it into the shop this past weekend.  It's confirmed.  (Broken)  The crank turns freely and the piston stays in place.  The exhaust valve is not completely closing. (?)

 

The plan is to part-out the 414-8 that I picked up this past fall, provided I can properly wire the mag series engine into the C-101.  You know start, run, charge all those things. I will keep you updated.

 

           

[ebinmaine 69,189]

That's going to be a neat little conversion. Wiring should be a cinch with the appropriate ignition switch.

 

Looking forward to following along on this one...

[Herder 2,354]

26 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

That's going to be a neat little conversion. Wiring should be a cinch with the appropriate ignition switch.

 

Looking forward to following along on this one...

Yes exactly! The right ignition switch. (?)  The one on the 414 is toast and the wiring is tied into the light board on the dash.

 

26 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

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[ebinmaine 69,189]

10 minutes ago, Herder said:

Yes exactly! The right ignition switch. (?)  The one on the 414 is toast and the wiring is tied into the light board on the dash.

 

 

There's a couple different switches for Magneto ignition.

5 blade and 6 blade. Should be able to use the 5 blade 1 on that.

 

[ebinmaine 69,189]

@953 nut

Has a few super handy schematic diagrams that would probably help you

[Herder 2,354]

36 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

@953 nut

Has a few super handy schematic diagrams that would probably help you

I would appreciate it.  Thank you EB. 

[JAinVA 4,629]

I ended up ordering the wrong switch for my 416 Mag equipped tractor.I just kept the switch to energize the starter and had a separate toggle switch to ground the Mags ignitionYou would never start it if you didn't know to flip the toggle.If you are not trying for original then the wiring is very simple.

[953 nut 56,341]

103 991 is the switch number for this wiring diagram.

 

[Pullstart 63,271]

The C-101 is a no nonsense beast, I’m sure a 14 mag under the hood would be pretty awesome!  

[Herder 2,354]

The spring project C-101 has moved on.  I knew going it to this tractor had thousands of hours on it but I didn't that everything would be ***** out.(?)  Everything was sloppy and needed to be fixed.  So now it's a parts tractor for the next project.  Here's the next project and I will let you figure it out what she is. 10hp a 4 speed and I am guessing about 1965 to 1967.  The tag is not legible.  Not nearly as sloppy just a bit crusty form sitting around. 

[ebinmaine 69,189]

Trina would be happy to see you working on her favorite vintage Square Hood.

 

Better luck with this one. Keep us posted!

[Herder 2,354]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

Trina would be happy to see you working on her favorite vintage Square Hood.

 

Better luck with this one. Keep us posted!

May need some luck with this one.  It's been sitting outside for years and I've scavenged parts off of it for as long as I can remember.  Give Trina the for me.   

[RandyLittrell 3,885]

From this angle it looks like a short wheel base so maybe a 1056?

 

 

 

 

Randy

[Herder 2,354]

21 minutes ago, RandyLittrell said:

From this angle it looks like a short wheel base so maybe a 1056?

 

 

 

 

Randy

Thanks, the frame is the same length as my Raider & Chargers. 

[Herder 2,354]

Todays progress.  Goodbye 4 speed, hello 8 speed.  I used one of the extra trans I had kickin around, an 8 speed out of an 414 and the roller is born.   

[ebinmaine 69,189]

23 minutes ago, Herder said:

Goodbye 4 speed, hello 8 speed

Have you used 8 speeds in single pedal tractors before?

I had a heckuvatime trying to adjust the 1267 clutch/brake setup because that was an 8, not a 6.

Brake drums are in different locations.

 

[Pullstart 63,271]

55 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Have you used 8 speeds in single pedal tractors before?

I had a heckuvatime trying to adjust the 1267 clutch/brake setup because that was an 8, not a 6.

Brake drums are in different locations.

 

 

I must have lucked out, the “8 speed” in Putt Putt is from a C-101 and the clutch/brake pedal works great.  I never did figure out a parking brake, but never really invested much time into it either.

[ebinmaine 69,189]

6 hours ago, pullstart said:

 never did figure out a parking brake

That was the part that was the most difficult. I got it to work but would only stay adjusted correctly for a very short time.

 

[Herder 2,354]

10 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Have you used 8 speeds in single pedal tractors before?

I had a heckuvatime trying to adjust the 1267 clutch/brake setup because that was an 8, not a 6.

Brake drums are in different locations.

 

Hadn't given it much thought!  I have a Raider with a 6 speed and that's a single pedal unit, there are a many parts tractor around here I will make something work.  I was going to see what it would take to make it into a dual pedal unit .  Guess we will see.  Some project workout the best when I just go for it.

[ebinmaine 69,189]

13 minutes ago, Herder said:

Hadn't given it much thought!  I have a Raider with a 6 speed and that's a single pedal unit, there are a many parts tractor around here I will make something work.  I was going to see what it would take to make it into a dual pedal unit .  Guess we will see.  Some project workout the best when I just go for it.

my 1267 is going to end up being a parts tractor but I have not disassembled it yet.

If you need any pictures or advise feel free to let me know.

 

it absolutely will work. It's just tough to keep in adjustment for some reason. I needed a working tractor so that was not okay with me.

also, I have found that I far prefer tractors with flat steps such as the B and C Series and in our hilly terrain I really like to have a separate brake pedal.

Edited June 4, 2019 by ebinmaine

[Herder 2,354]

50 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

my 1267 is going to end up being a parts tractor but I have not disassembled it yet.

If you need any pictures or advise feel free to let me know.

 

it absolutely will work. It's just tough to keep in adjustment for some reason. I needed a working tractor so that was not okay with me.

also, I have found that I far prefer tractors with flat steps such as the B and C Series and in our hilly terrain I really like to have a separate brake pedal.

Thank you eb. I was thinking that the brake pedal set-up from the C-101 may an option.  As my next step will be to figure out how to set-up the control system. 

[ebinmaine 69,189]

7 hours ago, Herder said:

Thank you eb. I was thinking that the brake pedal set-up from the C-101 may an option.  As my next step will be to figure out how to set-up the control system. 

You are correct about that brake pedal. Just be sure to also use the clutch rod and linkage as well.