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 Been running into some issues on my 1067 rebuild and the modifications that I did on the frame  to accommodate grease  

zerks for the pin on the front axle . I have had to modify the steering shaft to move the tie rods back a little so they would clear 

when turning back and forth. I noticed that they are not contacting the stops on the front axle so my idea is to do some modifications to the gear by were the shaft meets it in picture # 2 Any thoughts of this possibly working?

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wallfish

picture 4 appears if the tire turns farther it will hit the mule drive.

by moving the connection points back where the tie rods connect to the steering shaft, that effectively lengthens the distance between that and the steering arm on the spindle. Using the same fixed length tie rods would make them be too short. Could that be what's causing the issue? But you should notice the tires would toe out as well

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The Tuul Crib

I have the tires straight I broke the weld 

on the shaft and moved the quarter inch

piece were the tire rods bolt to one inch back.

 This  has had messed up the stop on the front axle .

What I’m thinking of doing is settling up stops between the frame and the gear 

( pic# 2)

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wallfish

Oh, thought you were trying to get the arms to hit the stops on the axle so the turning radius is tight.

I wouldn't do the stops on the fan gear. The cast mount steering block which holds the steering wheel shaft is a problem where it bolts to the frame and is already a weak point. Many get broken even without that addition force

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Ed Kennell

Maybe a hard rubber block bolted to the frame as a sector stop.  Should provide a cushion and actually reduce stresses on the sector gear block and the tie rod ends.

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The Tuul Crib

That’s kind of what in mind. The tire is a little close to the mule drive and a stop on the fan gear should work . 

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JoeM

I've seen tabs mounted to the tie rod bolt, when turned they contact the stop on the axle. They are just a flat piece of metal with a hole in one end.

 

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The Tuul Crib
23 minutes ago, OILUJ52 said:

I've seen tabs mounted to the tie rod bolt, when turned they contact the stop on the axle. They are just a flat piece of metal with a hole in one end.

 

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I like this idea! Simple easy fix! 

Thanx I’ll give it a try

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The Tuul Crib

OK I noticed today on my 414-8  that my spindle stops does not touch the spot on my front axle. This also is when I noticed a spot on my mule drive which the tire has been rubbing.  So I am wondering does anyone else have the same problem? 

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Lee1977

The tire and wheel looks to close to the axle. Is the wheel on backwards? Wheels have a longer hub on the back side, that would keep it further away  from the axle. 

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squonk

Could be wrong wheels with incorrect offset. 1067's did not come with the front mule drive. They had that idler and funky piece that always broke You might just have to mix and match to keep the tire from hitting that mule

 

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wallfish

The newer models like the 414 should have a wider front axle than the 60s tractors.

The 414 tires shouldn't even come close to touching the mule drive at full turn.

Can you post some pics that show the whole setup and not so close up?

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