Here's the exhaust brace/support I made for the Cinnamon Horse

[ebinmaine 67,567]

I took a flat bar from the pile o stuff and put a twist and a couple bends in appropriate places using the bench vice and a huge C clamp.

No heat needed. 11 gauge x 1-1/2" stock.

I was even lucky enough to have 2 of the 3 holes where they needed to be.

 

 

All exhaust and the bracket will be removed and painted.

I'm thinking this'll do for now.

 

 

 

 

@Mows4three @LengerichKA88

[Lee1977 6,663]

We see the brace now we want to see the rest of the stack.

[ebinmaine 67,567]

5 minutes ago, Lee1977 said:

We see the brace now we want to see the rest of the stack.

I'll take a pic of the complete piece later today

[WHNJ701 4,165]

is the engine mounted only one side? 

Edited February 24, 2019 by jabelman

[Vinylguy 4,674]

Never thought about the need for a brace for my k181 exhaust?

SHould I be concerned?

[ebinmaine 67,567]

7 minutes ago, jabelman said:

is the engine mounted only one side? 

This is a 16 horse with two bolts that go up through the frame into bottom of the engine.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Vinylguy said:

Never thought about the need for a brace for my k181 exhaust?

SHould I be concerned?

Terry, I don't have a brace on the exhaust for my Patriot horse either and that is also an eight.

That's a smaller exhaust system in total with smaller pipes and a lighter Muffler.

 

[Vinylguy 4,674]

Thanks Eric

 My stack is not heavy at all. Should be fine.

[ebinmaine 67,567]

Just now, Vinylguy said:

Thanks Eric

 My stack is not heavy at all. Should be fine.

What is the muffler that you have? Or is that just a pipe?

[squonk 41,142]

If you have a good chance of hitting tree limbs ect. I'd be concerned. Without hitting stuff I think your ok. I used schedule 80 black iron pipe for my exhaust piping

[squonk 41,142]

As far a bracing goes, I would rather brace the pipe to the engine than the tractor frame. You have a vibrating engine working against the rigid  frame. I think it will set things up for premature wear/ breakage

[pfrederi 17,741]

My bother did over $1000 damage to his Case 930 diesel when the exhaust stack tangled with a tree limb.  Header, pipe, muffler and hood damage..

[Vinylguy 4,674]

IT is just a pipe.

We made a few baffles and welded them inside to quiet it down some.

I love the way it looks and sounds but because this is going to work 

at least a couple times a week at the lake I think I will remove it and replace with an original shower head

for the summer. Better safe than sorry. The stack has been powder coated chrome.

Edited February 24, 2019 by Vinylguy

[ebinmaine 67,567]

9 minutes ago, squonk said:

chance of hitting tree limbs

Near zero chance here.

We don't use any of the tractors to mow and any limbs that get in the forest paths are removed to a height of about 7 feet.

 

5 minutes ago, squonk said:

As far a bracing goes, I would rather brace the pipe to the engine than the tractor frame. You have a vibrating engine working against the rigid  frame. I think it will set things up for premature wear/ breakage

I wondered about that too.

This is a solidly bolted engine-to-frame tractor. No mushy rubber isolation.

 

My other thought is to use a smaller diameter piece of the same black iron pipe to make a brace that would angle down to an engine hole.

[WHNJ701 4,165]

1 hour ago, jabelman said:

is the engine mounted only one side? 

can you bolt a piece of angle iron along the frame to get the other bolts mounted? that can't be good having one side mounted

[ebinmaine 67,567]

8 minutes ago, jabelman said:

can you bolt a piece of angle iron along the frame to get the other bolts mounted? that can't be good having one side mounted

Oh no no. It's okay. One side has the bolts going up through into the engine as previously mentioned and the other side has them pinching the flange as it does on a small block.

 

4 bolts through the frame are used.

[Digger 66 3,480]

1 hour ago, Vinylguy said:

Never thought about the need for a brace for my k181 exhaust?

SHould I be concerned?

 

 

Maybe something using these two bosses ?

 

[Chris G 3,296]

I personally put a brace on all my machines that have stacks.

[Mikey the Monkey 697]

I think it's great ebb. Simple clean and has a purpose.

[ebinmaine 67,567]

1 hour ago, Digger 66 said:

 

 

Maybe something using these two bosses ?

 

For whatever reason the upper of the two holes that you've marked on this particular engine is just a blank. I don't see any threads in there. I was seriously considering using the lower of the two holes but I didn't like the angle at which the support was going to be placed. That was the reasoning for going down all the way to the frame. It's nearly straight up and down.

 

Edited February 24, 2019 by ebinmaine

[Cat Balou 38]

hey eb. nice job.

 

What is that vice grip on your bench?  own modification?

 

i need one of those.

[squonk 41,142]

5 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

For whatever reason the upper of the two holes that you've marked on this particular engine is just a blank. I don't see any threads in there. I was seriously considering using the lower of the two holes but I didn't like the angle at which the support was going to be placed. That was the reasoning for going down all the way to the frame. It's nearly straight up and down.

 

Brace it off the bolt on the PTO bracket

[Mows4three 826]

Nice work Eric.    Glad to see your fab work, worked out!

 

Cheers! 

 

Dave

[ebinmaine 67,567]

12 minutes ago, Cat Balou said:

hey eb. nice job.

 

What is that vice grip on your bench?  own modification?

 

i need one of those.

Cat, thanks. I can't remember what those vise grips are for but they are actually not complete as they sit on the bench like that. Just something I've found over the years or inherited. Maybe one of the guys reading this thread remembers what they are. I posted it a year or two ago but I'm not very good at searching back through while on this phone device.

[Mows4three 826]

Those vise grips are sweet when used in a vise.  They become Like an extra pair of hands to hold parts that really need to be secured.

[Digger 66 3,480]

53 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

For whatever reason the upper of the two holes that you've marked on this particular engine is just a blank. I don't see any threads in there. I was seriously considering using the lower of the two holes but I didn't like the angle at which the support was going to be placed. That was the reasoning for going down all the way to the frame. It's nearly straight up and down.

 

 

Not saying you're right or wrong .

Squonk suggested it may be prone to vibration so I just made a suggestion as well.

Personally , I would have mounted it to the frame to seeing how it's a rigid mount engine without any mushy rubber isolation mounts .

Nice work !