Here's the exhaust brace/support I made for the Cinnamon Horse

[squonk 41,141]

I have seen those engine mount bolts loosen or break. The frame also twists and flexes especially when used a lot in fough terrain like skidding logs out of woods. You are attaching that nipple to 2 different Items. It's probably fine. But I have worked on enough stuff in industry and have seen things come apart and break that defies logic.

[ebinmaine 67,567]

6 minutes ago, squonk said:

worked on enough stuff in industry and have seen things come apart and break that defies logic.

Oh yeah!!

 

Right there with ya on that one....

 

Are there adapters available that would make it so I could put something like a half inch npt pipe bolted directly to the engine or something like that?

 

[ebinmaine 67,567]

4 hours ago, Lee1977 said:

We see the brace now we want to see the rest of the stack.

Here you go Lee.

 

I'm going to change the horizontal piece so that it's closer to the hood but this gives you an idea of the height. It's about 5-1/2 feet tall.

 

 

 

 

[Pullstart 62,905]

3 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Here you go Lee.

 

I'm going to change the horizontal piece so that it's closer to the hood but this gives you an idea of the height. It's about 5-1/2 feet tall.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I knew you’d be making it tall, well just under 7’ at least!  I recall you mentioning that the 10’ piece of 3” tubing would be adequate for Frank!

[ebinmaine 67,567]

7 hours ago, pullstart said:

 

 

I knew you’d be making it tall, well just under 7’ at least!  I recall you mentioning that the 10’ piece of 3” tubing would be adequate for Frank!

Hehehe.

 

I figured the height of the stack for cinnamon by experience with the 1267 plow tractor.

I'm using the same piece of exhaust and I have wanted it to be a few inches taller more than once to get the fumes a little higher.

And it's a stack.

And I'm 5.

And I like stacks.

 

[Sarge 3,463]

It is up to you - but I'd keep it as short as possible. That is an extreme amount of stress on that exhaust port with that much leverage. Just at an idle, the vibration will start working on that part of the engine's casting. On farm tractors, trucks and other equipment, the parts are much heavier and spread the load across a much larger area - not the case on these single cylinder engines. The longer the pipe, the more risk of cracking that whole exhaust port casting off the engine block - especially on that K341. I love stacks myself and even built duals on the K482 in the D, but hold my breath a lot when I hit a hard bump at full travel speed. 

I'd like my pipes a lot longer, but with the swept curves to miss the hood there is no way the engine casting would survive for very long and that's a tough engine to replace.

 

Sarge

[cschannuth 3,816]

 I was really worried about the cheap predator that I put in my 606 roller so I actually did two braces off of the engine. I crisscrossed them so that it gives it some horizontal and vertical support. Jim Kemp’s mufflers are built well and are heavy.  It’s not pretty but seems to be holding up well. 

[ebinmaine 67,567]

@cschannuth

Thanks for that pic set.

As I was bolting this together the other day I was thinking it might be nice to add another bracket to the engine to double up on the support so to speak.

 

[LengerichKA88 1,883]

6 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

And it's a stack.

And I'm 5.

And I like stacks.

 

I resemble that remark! 😂

[PeacemakerJack 10,738]

I know this is a little different Eric but this is the setup on Claudia’s Case 224...

this is a M16 motor on a rubber mounted plate.  The bracket has a piece of flat steel welded to the bottom side and the bracket welded to that.  The bottom of the bracket has a hole drilled through it with a 1/4” bolt, nut, and star washer.  That is connected to the plate that the engine is solid mounted to.  We installed it that way in 2003 and it is still going strong. 

 

Dad’s 875 has had a stack on it without brace since 1979 and it is still solid.  

(About the time of the install!)

 

Anything mechanical can fail at any time.  However, I think what you have will work just fine.  

[ebinmaine 67,567]

2 minutes ago, PeacemakerJack said:

what you have will work just fine.

Here's the way I figure it.

This is what it comes right down to.

I've basically got two possibilities here.

1, it will stay where it is and be perfectly fine.

2, it will break.

 

 

 

I'll slap the stuff on there as tight as I can and keep an eye on it.

 

 

[Pullstart 62,905]

25 minutes ago, PeacemakerJack said:

I know this is a little different Eric but this is the setup on Claudia’s Case 224...

this is a M16 motor on a rubber mounted plate.  The bracket has a piece of flat steel welded to the bottom side and the bracket welded to that.  The bottom of the bracket has a hole drilled through it with a 1/4” bolt, nut, and star washer.  That is connected to the plate that the engine is solid mounted to.  We installed it that way in 2003 and it is still going strong. 

 

Dad’s 875 has had a stack on it without brace since 1979 and it is still solid.  

(About the time of the install!)

 

Anything mechanical can fail at any time.  However, I think what you have will work just fine.  

 

 

Some pictures..... just don’t ever get old.  

[carlosking450 155]

Hi guys, is there any topic where someone explains how to make a silencer? Or any website that sells vertical exhausts for our Wheel Horse? Thanks.

[ebinmaine 67,567]

1 hour ago, carlosking450 said:

Hi guys, is there any topic where someone explains how to make a silencer? Or any website that sells vertical exhausts for our Wheel Horse? Thanks.

 

@Pullstart has made baffled exhaust.  

 

@jimkemp sells them. 

 

You can make your own from a small muffler too.  

 

 

[peter lena 8,634]

@ebinmaine  nice twistin on that !  had a lot of success with  an 8 / 10 " adjustable wrench , to snug adjust flat stock , then a 4 ft piece  of sch  40  1" pipe  , leverage advantage is very easy , the solidity  of the vise , makes steel bending easy . pete

[Bill D 1,922]

On 2/24/2019 at 6:17 PM, ebinmaine said:

Here you go Lee.

 

I'm going to change the horizontal piece so that it's closer to the hood but this gives you an idea of the height. It's about 5-1/2 feet tall.

 

 

 

 

Nice stack.  Could you tell me more about the old air compressor in the background.  Looks like an old Wayne.

[Bill D 1,922]

5 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

@Pullstart has made baffled exhaust.  

 

@jimkemp sells them. 

 

You can make your own from a small muffler too.  

 

 

I saw a muffler at my local TSC with a 1"inlet that would work nicely in a application like this.  They even had the flapper for the top.

[ebinmaine 67,567]

6 hours ago, Bill D said:

Nice stack.  Could you tell me more about the old air compressor in the background.  Looks like an old Wayne.

 

I can get some pics and info tomorrow. 

[ebinmaine 67,567]

7 hours ago, Bill D said:

Nice stack.  Could you tell me more about the old air compressor in the background.  Looks like an old Wayne.

 

 

I got this from a friend of the family a few years ago because the bottom of the tank was mostly rotted out and then fixed with bubblegum welding repair. I have used it a few times but will not continue to do so. I'm going to chop the top shelf off and incorporate the air from this compressor into the other one.