gt14rider 797 #1 Posted February 23, 2019 Hi all,. Working on my gt14s sunstrand 90-2062 tranny, hope someone can help, pulling it apart, I think someone has been here before, control trunnion shaft bearings # Torrington b1210 on one side and unknown # on other, can anyone tell me if this is right. Also pump shaft bearing is a Hoover 204. Pump shaft bearing seemed a little loose in housing.Parts manual doesn't show part # for the bearings any help would be appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,762 #2 Posted February 23, 2019 Is this the 'Control Trunion Shaft bearing" you refer to? If so, there are two of the same size. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #3 Posted February 23, 2019 Yes , that's the one, Torrington b1210 , is that the right bearing? Also what bearing do you use for the pump shaft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,874 #4 Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) You will not get it from Toro. Are you sure you read teh bearing # correctly could it be 304. Any bearing place should be able to help you out. 304K would be the open version. 52mm x 20mm x 15mm or you could contact LJ Fluid power. If it is 204 just take it to a bearing place they will be able to measure it up. 204 would be 47mm x 20mm x14mm Edited February 23, 2019 by pfrederi 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldon 4,827 #5 Posted February 23, 2019 Dave will point you correctly. As will Paul. If Dave does not respond expeditiously, you should search all of Daveoman’s posts that are already on the forum. He has posted tons of help on these I’ve rthe years. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #6 Posted February 23, 2019 The reason for the question is on pump shaft bearing on disassemble, there was slight looseness or play under snap ring. With shaft out bearing seems tight, little play. Someone has been in here before, silicone on gaskets, Teflon tape on some of the pipe plugs. Just checking, manual has no # for bearing. I have been reading alot of posts, my eye hert.i plan on using the seals on side shaft per Dave's mod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,874 #7 Posted February 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, gt14rider said: The reason for the question is on pump shaft bearing on disassemble, there was slight looseness or play under snap ring. With shaft out bearing seems tight, little play. Someone has been in here before, silicone on gaskets, Teflon tape on some of the pipe plugs. Just checking, manual has no # for bearing. I have been reading alot of posts, my eye hert.i plan on using the seals on side shaft per Dave's mod. Keep in mind WH felt the hydro gears other than the "Tune Up" were repair by replacement. So no part numbers for internal stuff. The piston to piston use a Hoover 304 bearing but there are big differences in the pump assembly between Piston to piston and hydro gears so yours may be different. You might be best taking to the experts at LJ Fluid power. They would know about internal parts as they came from Sundstrand not WH especially since some one had been in there and maybe they swapped out a bearing and used an incorrect replacement. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #8 Posted February 23, 2019 That's my thought, I'll try to get some specs on bearing and housing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #9 Posted February 23, 2019 Pfrederi you are right 304. Damn I'm getting old can't see ****. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,874 #10 Posted February 23, 2019 OK that is the size in the piston to piston. They are about $20-25 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ztnoo 2,298 #11 Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, gt14rider said: Damn I'm getting old can't see **** Maybe a cheap set of drug store cheaters would solve the problem. I've use them for years. Just try different diopter ratings until you find what works best for you for reading up close. Get an eyeglass necklace while you're at it and put it on them, and then just as importantly, wear it. They're always with you that way. As to the old part, I'm 16 years your senior and 70 now, so your sad story about getting old doesn't play well here. Edited February 23, 2019 by ztnoo 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #12 Posted February 23, 2019 I'll check a local bearing distributor for those bearings. Wh parts and more looks to have the other bearings for tranny, don't have the tranny apart yet, will check bearing first, are the re pop 1533 good or try to save the old ones. Thanks for all the help, Ztnoo have new glasses ordered , last 5 years can't see far, now starting with small up close, Will look into cheaters, my help with my shooting too Been taking pictures, once I get cleaned up I'll try to start a rebuild post. Next trick is to get the hubs off. Hay Aldon are you still in Corinth and do you still have the hydrolic puller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,874 #13 Posted February 24, 2019 GT14 hubs are like D series hubs. the body of the hub is very long compared to the thickness of the flange. If they do not come off easily do not put excessive stress on the flange, pull from the back end of the hub body otherwise you will snap the flange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,772 #14 Posted February 24, 2019 If you can't get the hubs to move there is a little trick I have used. Separate the case and slide the halves out as far as you can. This gives enough room to separate the differential and remove a snap ring from the axle. Now you can take the axle to the hydraulic press and push the hub off. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #15 Posted February 24, 2019 Ok good to know, will have to get some steel and make a puller set up like that. I'll keep in mind that I can split the cases if hub are stubborn. Thanks Anyone have a good pulley 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ztnoo 2,298 #16 Posted February 24, 2019 The WH# I come up with from my manual is 8144. There's one on eBay. Don't go into cardiac arrest if you find it. (If not found, PM me for link). Nothing on RCPW. Nothing on PartsTree. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aldon 4,827 #17 Posted February 24, 2019 There was a new old stock GT14 on the auction site for 325. That ended 7-14 days ago and I have not seen it listed. i don’t find the one your referencing Steve @ztnoo so please send me the info. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ztnoo 2,298 #18 Posted February 25, 2019 @gt14rider, Locate a hydro 8144 pulley yet? If not, I'll ask around a some of the WH FB sites to see if one can be located. Regards, Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldredrider 2,549 #19 Posted February 25, 2019 I've got one. It's for a keyed shaft. Send me a PM if interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #20 Posted February 25, 2019 Not yet, except for the one you sent me but 120 is a little steep. Expensive screew up. I was thinking about trying to get a double pulley for the tiller but will take what I can get. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ztnoo 2,298 #21 Posted February 25, 2019 A 8144 pulley is keyed. @oldredrider it should have the casting number on one of the pulley blades. * @gt14rider, take note: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #22 Posted February 25, 2019 It is a 8144 back of pulley has two holes for the fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ztnoo 2,298 #23 Posted February 25, 2019 @gt14rider, Sounds like we just need to hear from @oldredrider about verifying the part number. You might send him a PM, just in case he doesn't get back to the thread quickly. Not sure, but I think this was a GT 14 specific pulley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gt14rider 797 #24 Posted February 25, 2019 I have talked to oldredrider, and pulley will not work on a gt14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldredrider 2,549 #25 Posted February 26, 2019 I have the one you need. #8144. Check you messages Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
