Badges and engine don’t match ID Plate

[LengerichKA88 1,883]

We have a Charger 10 that I’ve had on here and gotten help with, but I’d never really looked at the ID Tag. 

Today while looking around it I took note of the model number, so as to help with narrowing down parts in the future. The model number listed on the tag is 1-7931. 

 

After a google search, “1-7931” returns as a Charger 9. Would this be a case of using left over tags, or possibly an error?  The tractor has an HH100, and is badged as a Charger 10, but from the Charger 9 manual I found, I couldn’t find an engine model number listed, just “9hp”. 

 

Picture of the tag is included.

 

 

Edited February 13, 2019 by LengerichKA88

[LengerichKA88 1,883]

Tractor Data lists the Charger 9 as being powered by a HH100 with a 10HP rating... 

I know the site is imperfect, but this only furthers my confusion. 

http://www.tractordata.com/lawn-tractors/000/5/1/515-wheel-horse-charger-9.html

[953 nut 55,839]

I suspect that people who had a Kohler powered Charger 10 wouldn't get confused when ordering parts.

[LengerichKA88 1,883]

5 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

I suspect that people who had a Kohler powered Charger 10 wouldn't get confused when ordering parts.

I’ve not seen one with a Kholer. I’ve also not seen a Kholer listed as being put in the 9s/10s. Doesn’t mean they aren’t out there, but weren’t they predominantly Techumsehs?

 

Also, it’s not that I’d “get confused ordering parts”, but I’d not made a mental note of the model number, and on some listings the model number is the only reference to what machine it will fit, as opposed to the model “name”. 

 

Edited February 14, 2019 by LengerichKA88

[pfrederi 17,887]

WH put the HH100-115095B on Chargers and Raiders in 1968 and called them 9s. In 1969 same engine they called it  a Charger10.  Who knows why (or cares) it is a 10hp engine.

[pfrederi 17,887]

4 minutes ago, LengerichKA88 said:

I’ve not seen one with a Kholer. I’ve also not seen a Kholer listed as being put in the 9s/10s. Doesn’t mean they aren’t out there, but weren’t they predominantly Techumsehs?

In 1972 Charger 10s had Kohlers...again who knows why it is what they bought ...maybe an issue of pricing from the engine manufacturer

[953 nut 55,839]

12 minutes ago, LengerichKA88 said:

I’ve not seen one with a Kholer. I’ve also not seen a Kholer listed as being put in the 9s/10s. Doesn’t mean they aren’t out there, but weren’t they predominantly Techumsehs?

 

Also, it’s not that I’d “get confused ordering parts”, but I’d not made a mental note of the model number, and on some listings the model number is the only reference to what machine it will fit, as opposed to the model “name”. 

 

Guess I was thinking of the Charger 12.

[LengerichKA88 1,883]

1 minute ago, 953 nut said:

Guess I was thinking of the Charger 12.

I could be wrong! 🤷🏻‍♂️ 

Thats why I’m here, to learn

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,102]

Added your serial number to the list. Click on the picture.

Garry

[LengerichKA88 1,883]

39 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

Added your serial number to the list. Click on the picture.

Garry

Thank you Garry 

I asked my FIL about it, as he’s the one who went and picked it up. He said the PO wasn’t the original owner. So I guess it’s highly possible/ probable that someone had replaced the decals far enough back that with current wear and tear they just look original. 

[Lee1977 6,805]

• Who knows why they called a 10 HP a 9 HP. Could be they specified they need a 9 HP engine and Techumseh made them a good price on the !0 HP. We know even after changing models  Wheel Horse used up excess part with special models. The S-Series was built after they started the Black hood using hoods from the older C-Series.

Edited February 14, 2019 by Lee1977